Cricket Thread

Everyone gets dicked in India in fairness. I think it would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater changing course from Bazball. Its produced a marked upturn in results over a decent amount of time. Think people forget just how dire the Sibley years were.
 
Knock em over (!!!) with them leading by no more than 120.
Post 550 and leave em chasing over 400 to win.
Simples; win by 270!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
The three English all rounders are much of a muchness.

Botham at his peak was a better bowler than the other two. Early in his career absolutely world class..
Flintoff was capable of extraordinary spells as is Stokes.
I think Stokes is a better batsman than Botham as he can tough it out. Although Botham batted a lot against some of the finest bowlers of all time.

Having said all that Imran Khan had truly world class bowling stats and a higher batting average than these 3.

Whilst Kallis averaged 55 with the bat and took nearly 300 wickets
 
The three English all rounders are much of a muchness.

Botham at his peak was a better bowler than the other two. Early in his career absolutely world class..
Flintoff was capable of extraordinary spells as is Stokes.
I think Stokes is a better batsman than Botham as he can tough it out. Although Botham batted a lot against some of the finest bowlers of all time.

Having said all that Imran Khan had truly world class bowling stats and a higher batting average than these 3.

Whilst Kallis averaged 55 with the bat and took nearly 300 wickets

Kallis always seemed to just pass under the radar.

When I first watched cricket, there were excellent all-rounders in many countries - Kapil Dev, Richard Hadlee, Imran.
Strange that I don't recall an Aussie allrounder at the time.

I agree that Botham was above Flintoff and Stokes. The point about the opposition is a good one - there isn't much like the West Indian attack of the time, and the Aussies had Lillee.
 
Kallis always seemed to just pass under the radar.

When I first watched cricket, there were excellent all-rounders in many countries - Kapil Dev, Richard Hadlee, Imran.
Strange that I don't recall an Aussie allrounder at the time.

I agree that Botham was above Flintoff and Stokes. The point about the opposition is a good one - there isn't much like the West Indian attack of the time, and the Aussies had Lillee.
Imran and Hadlee are all time great fast bowlers. Their batting was secondary.

Kapil was the most like Botham. The next rung down as a bowler but destructive with the bat on his day.

Someone we have forgotten is Sobers who would be in an all time world XI simply as a batsman. His bowling average however is higher than all the others. But he could bowl orthodox as well as wrist spin and also fast medium.

A couple of Aussie all rounders. Gus Gilmour and Simon O'Donnell.
 

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