This is the last chance for Archer to actually get fit for a five-day Test match and think his eye is on the Australian series. But I’ll be shocked if Archer plays two Test matches on the run; his history tells you he won’t! Bowling a few overs in county cricket is totally different from Test match cricket!
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This is the last chance for Archer to actually get fit for a five-day Test match and think his eye is on the Australian series. But I’ll be shocked if Archer plays two Test matches on the run; his history tells you he won’t! Bowling a few overs in county cricket is totally different from Test match cricket!
EastMidlandsBlue
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We've still got Atkinson to come back as well, who walks into this side as far as I'm concerned.England are 2 fast bowlers away from being a very good team with a chance of winning the ashes. if we can get Wood and Archer fully fit and able to play 3 or 4 test in a row, then we have a great chance.
What happened to Ollie Robinson, he seems to have vanished into thin air, he looked really promising
Gabriel
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One can accommodate a tail if it is at least a credible bowling threat, but in this instance India’s calls for docking.
Bluemoon dan
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In a long list of stupid comments this is a doozy. I actually saw it come through as it was posted on the live commentary and it was already getting plenty of thumbs downs. But 17000 is actually impressive!
dadnlad
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and stop playing at bouncers and paddle sweep shotsI did say IF we can get Archer and Wood fully fit
stan bowles
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Didn't realise he had such lofty ambitions.Vaughan criticises anyone where it allows him to promote the idea that he should lead English cricket (not coach, but overall in charge).
Pubteam Lomas
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I know it's hindsight BUT that last hour, yesterday, was pivotal.
India were in charge but that little spell from Tongue stopped them dictating the test. We had a target and then reaching the close none down was key.
India were in charge but that little spell from Tongue stopped them dictating the test. We had a target and then reaching the close none down was key.
This is the last chance for Archer to actually get fit for a five-day Test match and think his eye is on the Australian series. But I’ll be shocked if Archer plays two Test matches on the run; his history tells you he won’t! Bowling a few overs in county cricket is totally different from Test match cricket!
I doubt he plays in any of the 4 test that are left, so you don't take him if he doesn't play any test cricket before the ashes, maybe let him play country cricket for now and see if there is any reaction to his fitness, then in the last 2 test give him a chance, he's been bowling at 90mph in his return
melrose40yarder
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For me i would want Pope gone.We've still got Atkinson to come back as well, who walks into this side as far as I'm concerned.
What happened to Ollie Robinson, he seems to have vanished into thin air, he looked really promising
Atkinson and Potts in rotate with Wood and Archer.
Jamie Smith moved up the order best young player ive seen for a long time.Head is so still when the ball is delivered.
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They don't bowl enough that's why they can't stay fit. What is it Archers first County game for four years, the game he's currently playing in for Sussex? Absolutely ridiculous.This is the last chance for Archer to actually get fit for a five-day Test match and think his eye is on the Australian series. But I’ll be shocked if Archer plays two Test matches on the run; his history tells you he won’t! Bowling a few overs in county cricket is totally different from Test match cricket!
They all want to ponce about around the world bowling 4 overs twice a week, no wonder they break down as soon as they have to put some graft in. Their bodies are conditioned for fast bowling.
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No way are India coming back from this humiliation, 4 or 5 nil England series win.
Uncle Wally One Ball
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Agreed. And its conditioned to bowling to limited overs who will or have to take you on. Bowling in the channel and on a length for a whole spell during a session is an art that had been lost. Bowling fast is great. Bowling fast tactically for 3 x 9 over spells in a day is differentThey don't bowl enough that's why they can't stay fit. What is it Archers first County game for four years, the game he's currently playing in for Sussex? Absolutely ridiculous.
They all want to ponce about around the world bowling 4 overs twice a week, no wonder they break down as soon as they have to put some graft in. Their bodies are conditioned for fast bowling.
The Stockport Iniesta
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Spot on. I don't remember English test bowlers breaking down in the past like they do now. The bowlers in those days used to play for their County in between test matches as well, they were proper bowling fit, not wrapped in cotton wool.Agreed. And its conditioned to bowling to limited overs who will or have to take you on. Bowling in the channel and on a length for a whole spell during a session is an art that had been lost. Bowling fast is great. Bowling fast tactically for 3 x 9 over spells in a day is different
For me it's like asking pro footballers to get fit for the 11 a side game by playing the occasional 5 a side game abroad because there's more money in it.
That’s a big ‘if’.this is a good shout
Also weakness in India's bowling options, hoping for Bumrah to do the damage is not going to win enough games in england, India getting 471 in the first innings with only Bumrah to scare the English batsman.
England are 2 fast bowlers away from being a very good team with a chance of winning the ashes. if we can get Wood and Archer fully fit and able to play 3 or 4 test in a row, then we have a great chance.
jimharri
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Those two guys are made of glass. Shame, but there you go.I did say IF we can get Archer and Wood fully fit
M18CTID
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In a long list of stupid comments this is a doozy. I actually saw it come through as it was posted on the live commentary and it was already getting plenty of thumbs downs. But 17000 is actually impressive!
A pathetic comment that makes no sense whatsoever. Nothing wrong with constructive criticisim of the Bazball approach but what's all this shite about arrogance? It's not arrogant to have confidence and belief that you can chase down targets in 80-odd overs that were previously nigh on unachievable in test cricket, barring the very odd exception such as the Windies getting 344/1 against England in just over 66 overs to win a test match at Lords in 1984 of course!
Those two guys are made of glass. Shame, but there you go.
True
Maybe Archer should take all that gold off when playing
Yup, Smith is a real find in all formats. He’s a good example of the meticulous approach the England coaches etc now have towards appraising the talent available.For me i would want Pope gone.
Atkinson and Potts in rotate with Wood and Archer.
Jamie Smith moved up the order best young player ive seen for a long time.Head is so still when the ball is delivered.
Not sure about dropping the Pontiff after his performance in this Test, although there are others knocking on the door.
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jimharri
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He likes his bling, doesn't he?True
Maybe Archer should take all that gold off when playing