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BringBackSwales said:
Don’t agree with that at all. Bairstow got the runs really quickly so took minimal time out of the game, without it we would actually be in arrears by now, and doing it put their chins to the follow and we took 4 wickets
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jimharri said:
No problem. It's all about opinions. I still think that we could have prised out another couple with the extra time we'd have been bowling at them. Yes, we would not have had as big a lead. But we possibly could have got them out cheaper than is looking likely at the moment. And as we need the win (a draw is useless), maybe it would have been worth the gamble.
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I think there's two things. Stokes wanted to grind the Aussies faces into the ground. The way they themselves like to do. He wanted them to think they had no chance, so that they would come out with their heads still down. That can be defended.
Secondly, I think he wanted to give his team a single, clear objective. Bowl and field the Aussies out. We don't bat again. Again, I can see the logic.
 
Def draw this rained off tonight 90% of rain most of the day tomorrow it’s pouring down in Stretford again now
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
I think there's two things. Stokes wanted to grind the Aussies faces into the ground. The way they themselves like to do. He wanted them to think they had no chance, so that they would come out with their heads still down. That can be defended.
Secondly, I think he wanted to give his team a single, clear objective. Bowl and field the Aussies out. We don't bat again. Again, I can see the logic.
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It's a great plan no doubt about it But will we not need to bat again? I hope not, given the time restraints.
 
jimharri said:
It's a great plan no doubt about it But will we not need to bat again? I hope not, given the time restraints.
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Almost certainly, the plan hasn't worked. But you can see how it would have concentrated minds. Had we been able to come out and bat from 11 this morning, I'm pretty certain this would have gone very differently. Their heads were gone. They had time to settle, and regroup.
 
Todays play was probably a bonus.
We might get some tomorrow.
Get them all out and be 50 ish behind we might get enough play to win
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
Almost certainly, the plan hasn't worked. But you can see how it would have concentrated minds. Had we been able to come out and bat from 11 this morning, I'm pretty certain this would have gone very differently. Their heads were gone. They had time to settle, and regroup.
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But today had been predicted for pretty much all the week. They can't say that they were taken by surprise when they woke up this morning and looked out of the window. Time was key. And we were likely to have a very limited amount of it over the weekend. The spell we got this afternoon was a bonus, but we didn’t make full use of it. We needed a minimum of two wickets (preferably 3 or 4), to give us a fighting chance. Unless Wood and/or Broad can come up with a demon spell when (if?) we get back on again, we're really going to be up against the clock.
 
jimharri said:
But today had been predicted for pretty much all the week. They can't say that they were taken by surprise when they woke up this morning and looked out of the window. Time was key. And we were likely to have a very limited amount of it over the weekend. The spell we got this afternoon was a bonus, but we didn’t make full use of it. We needed a minimum of two wickets (preferably 3 or 4), to give us a fighting chance. Unless Wood and/or Broad can come up with a demon spell when (if?) we get back on again, we're really going to be up against the clock.
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Personally I think the original plan was to declare only 100 or so runs ahead but when Root got “Castled” the other day - by no means the only time the pitch behaved inconsistently on day 2 - I reckon they changed their plans because there was a worry that the pitch was going to deteriorate badly, making batting something of a nightmare if we were chasing any kind of total in the fourth innings. Hence, the idea that we should get as far ahead on first innings as possible to try and negate the need to bat again.
 
BringBackSwales said:
Yet when Broad didn’t walk a few years ago he had the whole country slagging him, death threats, the lot. Horrible 2 faced cunts
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And plenty of English were defending what Broad did.

Plenty of hypocrisy on cricket, and it's not just the Australians, despite how many people like to make out it is.
 
The new ball is only 9 overs away and should there be any play tomorrow that will be the key.
The way the pitch played today we were crying out for a top quality spinner.
I was surprised Stokes decided to bat on as long as he did but it’s a moot point if it rains all day tomorrow.
 
Protein Junkie said:
The new ball is only 9 overs away and should there be any play tomorrow that will be the key.
The way the pitch played today we were crying out for a top quality spinner.
I was surprised Stokes decided to bat on as long as he did but it’s a moot point if it rains all day tomorrow.
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Jimmy Anderson well past his best.
 
Protein Junkie said:
I was surprised Stokes decided to bat on as long as he did but it’s a moot point if it rains all day tomorrow.
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Not really, had he declared without the Bairstow/Anderson partnership, they'd already have a lead, making any possible chase tomorrow longer.

Can't see any play tomorrow sadly, latest forecast, second line down (below temperature) is rainfall in mm per 3 hours.

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