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Kippax Street 1880 said:
We have one batsman capable of playing a proper test innings. Root. That's it. We have to play this way, the alternative is just as shite. See the Burns, Sibley Hameed era where we scored at 2 an over and still collapsed in a heap with alarming regularity.

Now we do need to be a bit more streetwise at certain moments. Let yourself bat 30 balls before throwing your hands at a wide one at least, but in general the Bazball era has been miles better than the one proceeding it. It's brought us some great test wins.
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How many tests and series have we won against the better teams away from home, playing bazball ?
The Aussies played the right idea of bazball in sending out one player to smash it around (Head) and take the game away from england.

Bazball has to have a method and a plan, but with England, it's shit or bust and nothing else.
Your opening pair should not be a ticking time bomb, then Joe Root at 3, How many times will it take to understand that being 33 for 3 or 55 for 5 in less than 10 overs is wrong and daft

One player can play Bazball if needed, just like Head today the Aussies had a plan and method in opening their innings chasing 200 to win.
 
waspish said:
Well Head played Bazball after he had settled in after 2 overs! Now everyone in the England camp have that to reinforce there beliefs! One person with no form comes in smashers it everywhere wins the game!
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That is the method and the right way to play bazball, england doesn't understand the method or how to plan and put it in place when needed, 65 for 1 at lunch with 3 and a half days left in the test, you don't need to use bazball
 
Value your wicket
Get the bowlers to OCCASIONALLY bowl at the stumps
Remember it's a TEST match, the clue is in the name.

Crawley to get ONE score over 50, which will cement his place for next summer.
Next summer he'll get ONE century, which will cement his place for next winter. Rinse and repeat for the next few years
 
A perfect day from England.
Who knew that playing no cricket for 3 months would leave you short of practice?

On the plus side, we’ve managed to play some batsmen into form. On the negative side, those batsmen are Head and Labouchane…
Head had one score over 40 in his last 39 innings and Labouchane was dropped, he was so poor.

Given the next game is a day/night game which traditionally sees lots of early wickets, we could be in for the first ever One Day Test. Alternatively, we’ll play Smith into form, he’ll score 200 and we won’t get him out for the rest of the series!

Oddly, my biggest gripe was with Stokes, doing what he often does in the field, by stopping attacking, once Head had got to 40. There was only one very, very slight way England were going to win that, once the Aussies were ‘chasing’ 200 and it wasn’t by not taking wickets!
 
ancoats said:
That is the method and the right way to play bazball, england doesn't understand the method or how to plan and put it in place when needed, 65 for 1 at lunch with 3 and a half days left in the test, you don't need to use bazball
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Even in the first innings, 160/6 and Smith is smashing it around. All the bowlers come in and are looking to hit every ball for 6. Surely you play for the batter that’s in?
 
Not seen owt of it, did the weather/air pressure change in the afternoon today to make such a different second Aussie innings compared to the first three innings, stopping the ball swinging or something?
 
ancoats said:
How many tests and series have we won against the better teams away from home, playing bazball ?
The Aussies played the right idea of bazball in sending out one player to smash it around (Head) and take the game away from england.

Bazball has to have a method and a plan, but with England, it's shit or bust and nothing else.
Your opening pair should not be a ticking time bomb, then Joe Root at 3, How many times will it take to understand that being 33 for 3 or 55 for 5 in less than 10 overs is wrong and daft

One player can play Bazball if needed, just like Head today the Aussies had a plan and method in opening their innings chasing 200 to win.
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Your are ignoring all the times we have been 80/0 after 15 overs. Were we ever regularly winning away Test series? Because I can't remember that happening in the past 10 years.
 
Kippax Street 1880 said:
Your are ignoring all the times we have been 80/0 after 15 overs. Were we ever regularly winning away Test series? Because I can't remember that happening in the past 10 years.
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Good point mate. That said, I can kind of see @ancoats point as well though. I’m a huge fan of the approach but we need to be a bit more savvy when playing tests away from home. Just rein it in a bit more as and when the need arises. Maybe the players thought this one would be a low scoring game throughout and fell into that trap of thinking we could bowl them out cheaply in the 2nd innings too but as others have said, the pitch at that ground tends to be more batter friendly on day two.

That said, we won a series in NZ 12 months ago and they’re no mugs so it’s entirely possible to win a series over in Australia with this squad of players playing this style of cricket.
 
Wretched Vengeance said:
When the Aussies come to England for the Ashes, they're competitive and smart.

We go to theirs, we're a shambles and play daft cricket. We'll end up on the end of yet another humiliating annihilation.
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It was shit today but don't write these lads off. The last home Ashes started the same and by the end of it they were on their knees praying for rain to save them from a 3-2 defeat. We know our bowlers can hurt them now and surely we won't get such a poor return from the likes of Root, Duckett, Stokes and Smith again.

They should all be playing in that warm up game with the pink ball though, fucking joke if they don't do that. Fail to prepare. Prepare to fail.
 
Is this actually a cunning plan by England to lose every Test in two days, bankrupt Cricket Australia due to all the refunds they’ll have to pay and then win all subsequent Ashes series by default?
 
M18CTID said:
Good point mate. That said, I can kind of see @ancoats point as well though. I’m a huge fan of the approach but we need to be a bit more savvy when playing tests away from home. Just rein it in a bit more as and when the need arises. Maybe the players thought this one would be a low scoring game throughout and fell into that trap of thinking we could bowl them out cheaply in the 2nd innings too but as others have said, the pitch at that ground tends to be more batter friendly on day two.

That said, we won a series in NZ 12 months ago and they’re no mugs so it’s entirely possible to win a series over in Australia with this squad of players playing this style of cricket.
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It was a tactical misstep definitely second innings. We played the pitch like it was a minefield and quick runs were better than no runs. It wasn't. Once the ball softened batting became much easier.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Even in the first innings, 160/6 and Smith is smashing it around. All the bowlers come in and are looking to hit every ball for 6. Surely you play for the batter that’s in?
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Yeah, wouldn’t have made any odds as it happened but weren’t to know at the time. When Carse was in with Atkinson who was batting well. Carse walked a yard or 2 acrosss from his off stump and tried a ramp shot, like he was prime Jos Buttler playing a T20. Summed that shitshow of a batting display up in one shot
 
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