Crumpsall Synagogue Attack - two people confirmed dead, one inadvertently shot by police along with the suspect

Unfortunately, as almost every Jew I know agrees, it was only a matter of time till something as tragic as this occurred, but to happen with this community, which was so proactive in it's interfaith work and partnerships with other local faith groups, including the Muslim community, is even more shocking.
Honestly mate, this is often the thing that hateful people despise more than anything else. The people trying to bring groups together rather than force them apart. People trying to find common ground and work together. They hate them more than their opposite numbers on the 'other side.'

Absolutely awful news. I hope everyone can recover in time.
 
Think the Police and other services have done as best they could, they’ve tried to protect that part of Manchester and it’s residents in the past as the monument to PC Stephen Oake will attest to not 1 mins walk from today’s horrific incident.

A memorial that’s been vandalised a few times.
 
About a mile away from where I live, really sickening news.

Thoughts and condolences to the families of the victims.
 
For some reason some people thought he was a member of the SS ( maybe because he was in The Hitler Youth),
but he was a Fallschirmjäger(paratrooper) and served with distinction on the Eastern Front.
He was in the Hitler youth and only admitted it in his later years. I remember his words at his testimonial: “Everything I learnt about life, I learned in the UK.”
He was brought up to believe Britain was a land of savages.
 
He was in the Hitler youth and only admitted it in his later years. I remember his words at his testimonial: “Everything I learnt about life, I learned in the UK.”
To be fair,most German males of his age were in the Hitler Youth ,I don't think they had much choice given the propaganda and anti- semitism that was forced onto them.
 
Just chatting to our dogwalker who has an elderly Jewish lady client. When he called this morning she had taken off the Mezuzah Hebrew symbol on her front door, telling him she didn't want to be conspicuous. She also told him that she used to have a username with Uber that had a Jewish link in it (unspecified) and recently several orders were cancelled after not being fulfilled by Muslim riders. Changed it and the problem disappeared.
 
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City’s Facebook page has posted their condolences regarding today’s tragic events. And it’s followed below the line by the most outrageous antisemitic comments. Why do they have no one as admin monitoring it? It was same when they posted to celebrate Hanukkah. If they can’t be bothered monitoring it, don’t post it.
Tell them
 
yes i'm afraid social media - anything with facility for comment - has been a ripe battleground for modern geopolitics for some years now. I read a stat years ago that predicted up to 90% of posts on forums and comment facilities on facebook etc would be AI or bot generated. I'm not sure what i interact with is that high, but you can see how much of this is just similar unfiltered bigotry, almost instantly. It helps to destabilse faith in your own society and set people against other groups, as well as encouraging radicalisation to causes.

The internet is very very much the new arena of cultural and societal warfare.
Sadly, bang on
 
City’s Facebook page has posted their condolences regarding today’s tragic events. And it’s followed below the line by the most outrageous antisemitic comments. Why do they have no one as admin monitoring it? It was same when they posted to celebrate Hanukkah. If they can’t be bothered monitoring it, don’t post it.
Just who are these disgusting people? I don’t suppose they put their names to their posts. Are they so called City fans? They should be tracked down and blacklisted by the club.
 
However there is the chance of a device going off if he is holding the trigger in his hand. Thereby blowing up the synagogue with the people inside.
If there’s any chance of a suspect detonating a bomb vest then a head shot is the best chance the security forces have of preventing activation..
 
There is toxicity all over social media… I left X when it was Twitter as it wasn’t good for my mental health.. I am close to sacking Facebook too but I’d miss contact with friends.. it’s a dilemma
You can keep Facebook messenger and get rid of the platform.
 

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