Crystal Palace (A) | PL | Post Match Thread

[GoatersLeftShin]

I still find it hard to understand why our players look absolutely shot compared to every other team in the league. Every player looks unfit and like they've played a game beforehand.

As for Palace, they deserved it and our "defence", Dias apart, was dreadful. They weren't helped by a midfield that offered no protection and no creativity either. Teams like Palace can cut through us with ease and when you wish Will Hughes was in your team, you know you're deep in the shit.

The Derby could be a car crash and with their pace I'm dreading it.

I genuinely don't know what the answer is but carrying on playing Walker, Lewis, Gundogan and Nunes isn't going to help us win games or plan for next season. If there's no one in our academy who can't look competent - and Pep clearly thinks not - then sell the lot.

This seasons a total write off in terms of the league and I think we have a HUGE problem. We have been found out and any team in the league is a match for us which is incredible. The club feels listless at the moment with seemingly no real plans. I hope I'm wrong but I'm getting the horrible feeling the charges outcome is known and it's a horrific outcome.

 

[GoatersLeftShin]

He was brought in second time round to add and cameo appearances which would have been just fine. Now he is being asked to do Rodri and Kovavic cover.

Had it not being for Gundogan we don’t win the game v Villa two seasons ago and therefore the third back to back title!

He has been a great player overall especially in the treble seasons.

Spot on, Gungogan has been a magnificent servant and the goals v Villa and also THAT goal v United means he will always be a legend.

 

[Franny 1234]

Yes team selections have been the problem - not just the injuries. Today was the classic case. Walker, Gundo, Rico are always selected.Why? Grealish and Doku left on the bench despite their performances against Forest. Added to this ... why does Pep leave it so late to make substitutions? He does indeed need to have a word with himself.

Team selection!!!!!
Pep said in his press conference that both Jack & Doku were unable to play for 90 mins.
Players he couldn't pick
BOBB
RODRI
STONES
FODEN
AKE
AKANJI
KOVACIC
So to answer your question why are Gundo,Rico and Walker always starting who else could pep pick ?

 

[BlueMonkey79]

One of the reasons we look gassed is that every player is running harder for longer as we can't deal with other teams anymore.

Usually in previous seasons we are in total control of the game and we have that extra gear towards the end of games. That gear has gone now.

Players running around chasing shadows most of the time as it's not their natural game.

We were fed a crumb of getting back into this title race after the scousers drew midweek. And another handful of crumbs to close the gap yesterday when their game succumbed to the weather. We totally and abjectively blew it!!! Typical City style.

This season now is all about top 4.

If we fail to secure top 4 then the owners need to shepherd a large proportion of the blame as well.

Our dire performances in the last few transfer windows is coming home to roost.

Gvardiol and Haaland aside our buys have been underwhelming at best. Panic buying the likes of Nunes and bringing back pensioners has cost us 1, possibly 2 years of dining out at the top table.

 

[IrishBloodEnglishHeart]

You don’t need to know more than Pep to know we are presently fucked.

What’s that got to do with the post I quoted?

 

[Whether or not]

I still find it hard to understand why our players look absolutely shot compared to every other team in the league. Every player looks unfit and like they've played a game beforehand.

As for Palace, they deserved it and our "defence", Dias apart, was dreadful. They weren't helped by a midfield that offered no protection and no creativity either. Teams like Palace can cut through us with ease and when you wish Will Hughes was in your team, you know you're deep in the shit.

The Derby could be a car crash and with their pace I'm dreading it.

I genuinely don't know what the answer is but carrying on playing Walker, Lewis, Gundogan and Nunes isn't going to help us win games or plan for next season. If there's no one in our academy who can't look competent - and Pep clearly thinks not - then sell the lot.

This seasons a total write off in terms of the league and I think we have a HUGE problem. We have been found out and any team in the league is a match for us which is incredible. The club feels listless at the moment with seemingly no real plans. I hope I'm wrong but I'm getting the horrible feeling the charges outcome is known and it's a horrific outcome.

I understand the sentiment of your last paragraph, but the general feeling of a downer isn’t charge related in my view. It is a losing run, huge injury problems, ageing players and poor recruitment. It is a rhetorical question, but if we were ripping up trees and 10 points clear, would that be interpreted as knowing we had won the 115 case. It wouldn’t be, so surely it can’t be seen as a negative indicator either just because we are struggling.

 

[Roachy]

Anyone holding their head goes off for 10mins for a concussion assessment, they do it in the nfl, if they want to bring a concussion sub on for that 10 mins so be it, but I reckon most would be up on their feet straight away, that twat last night deserved an Oscar and quite rightly the ref left him there, that albino twat needs a retrospective yellow as well for his faking it.

This is the solution, would stop it in it's tracks.

 

[Gordyola]

I still find it hard to understand why our players look absolutely shot compared to every other team in the league. Every player looks unfit and like they've played a game beforehand.

Our squad has played more games than any other in the past 7 years and significantly more than most due to being in more competitions and going further. Just this season at the point we played Bournmouth and Brighton we had payed 5 more games than they had, now its 6, also virtually every player of our's are top internationals and are used by their countries a lot.
This season as a result of injures some players are having to play every game even if not fully fit or fatigued to aid that they are training less.

 

[heslops barnet]

Which is a bit sad really when you consider those major achievements. He will end up mainly associated with what is becoming a train wreck of a season rather then for the glorious moments he brought us previously.

Already said there’s no room for sentimentality….Komps, Silva, Yaya we new when it was time to move them on

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

Gundo is 34 and is being flogged to death in a position he couldn't play against physical midfields in his mid twenties. He has won us multiple trophies and is doing his best. What the fuck would we be doing with no Gundo this season? It's not his fault the squad planning has been that terrible we are relying on a bloke we sold 2 years ago to play 3 games a week.

 

[Ajm1985]

Gundo is 34 and is being flogged to death in a position he couldn't play against physical midfields in his mid twenties. He has won us multiple trophies and is doing his best. What the fuck would we be doing with no Gundo this season? It's not his fault the squad planning has been that terrible we are relying on a bloke we sold 2 years ago to play 3 games a week.

It is mad to think we would have gone into this season with no additional midfielders if Gundo hadn't made himself available. Rodri getting an injury of some sort was inevitable with how much he was being played every year, and our strategy was...nothing.

I made a point of raising the lack of future planning when we signed Gundogan (and no other midfielders) and just received abuse about focusing on ages etc. It was as evident then as now, that not getting younger midfielders in, that the manager will play, was a mistake.

 

[Gordyola]

Anyone holding their head goes off for 10mins for a concussion assessment, they do it in the nfl, if they want to bring a concussion sub on for that 10 mins so be it, but I reckon most would be up on their feet straight away, that twat last night deserved an Oscar and quite rightly the ref left him there, that albino twat needs a retrospective yellow as well for his faking it.

Siad the same in the Ref Performance thread
Refs have no option but to stop the game for a head injury therefore every stoppage for a head injury should result in a 10 min check for concussion. Hughes indicated a head injury ref stop game Hughes recovered not even any treatment or check He did it as City were building momentum This should be a red card as its the Mose despicable form of cheating

 

[Roachy]

Gundo is 34 and is being flogged to death in a position he couldn't play against physical midfields in his mid twenties. He has won us multiple trophies and is doing his best. What the fuck would we be doing with no Gundo this season? It's not his fault the squad planning has been that terrible we are relying on a bloke we sold 2 years ago to play 3 games a week.

Agree, he's largely past it age wise but is being asked to do a lot more than was envisaged sadly. The squad planning, or lack of, is a big factor in our showings coupled with our injuries. Hopefully we can reinforce this position in Jan with the rest to follow in the summer.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

Agree, he's largely past it age wise but is being asked to do a lot more than was envisaged sadly. The squad planning, or lack of, is a big factor in our showings coupled with our injuries. Hopefully we can reinforce this position in Jan with the rest to follow in the summer.

It's absolutely vital mate. We need a DM on January the 1st or it's going to get really bad. Bernardo and Gundo are running on fumes already.

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

On chances alone we should have won, but equally my heart sinks every time we lose the ball cheaply, as virtually every team (including the rags next week) are far quicker on the counter attack, and it's just too easy to get behind us.

As a recently sacked Manager once asserted, all eras come to an end. However, aside from the bad luck with injuries, it's been utterly ridiculous the way we've allowed this team to drift, particularly in the Full Back areas.

 

[give it to gordon]

I still find it hard to understand why our players look absolutely shot compared to every other team in the league. Every player looks unfit and like they've played a game beforehand.

As for Palace, they deserved it and our "defence", Dias apart, was dreadful. They weren't helped by a midfield that offered no protection and no creativity either. Teams like Palace can cut through us with ease and when you wish Will Hughes was in your team, you know you're deep in the shit.

The Derby could be a car crash and with their pace I'm dreading it.

I genuinely don't know what the answer is but carrying on playing Walker, Lewis, Gundogan and Nunes isn't going to help us win games or plan for next season. If there's no one in our academy who can't look competent - and Pep clearly thinks not - then sell the lot.

This seasons a total write off in terms of the league and I think we have a HUGE problem. We have been found out and any team in the league is a match for us which is incredible. The club feels listless at the moment with seemingly no real plans. I hope I'm wrong but I'm getting the horrible feeling the charges outcome is known and it's a horrific outcome.

I find that opening paragraph bizarre to be honest. To be at the very top of your sport for the past 4 years is unbelievable.
It will be knackering both mentally and physically.
There has to come a time when the body says enough is enough and this is that season.

The way football is going with to many games I can see players knocking their carrier on the head early. To many games, to knackered and plus boredom of the monotony of games every 3 days. The pressure to perform at the very top every 3 days it's not substantial.

This team is mentally knackered

 

[IcriedwhenTueartleft]

Could have been worse after falling behind twice and then playing last 15 with 10 men, given our recent results.
Savinho is powder puff and I'm not convinced he is the sort you need in the trenches.
Poor from Walker to play them onside for their first, not the first time that has happened either.
Quelle surprise, falling behind relatively early doors again
Good spirit from us though....Dias did very well for us, please stay fit
Palace have been picking up of late so ordinarily, would not have been a bad point.
Struggling to recall our last away win...suspect it won't be in Turin this Wednesday.

 

[Matt Diablo]

I still find it hard to understand why our players look absolutely shot compared to every other team in the league. Every player looks unfit and like they've played a game beforehand.

As for Palace, they deserved it and our "defence", Dias apart, was dreadful. They weren't helped by a midfield that offered no protection and no creativity either. Teams like Palace can cut through us with ease and when you wish Will Hughes was in your team, you know you're deep in the shit.

The Derby could be a car crash and with their pace I'm dreading it.

I genuinely don't know what the answer is but carrying on playing Walker, Lewis, Gundogan and Nunes isn't going to help us win games or plan for next season. If there's no one in our academy who can't look competent - and Pep clearly thinks not - then sell the lot.

This seasons a total write off in terms of the league and I think we have a HUGE problem. We have been found out and any team in the league is a match for us which is incredible. The club feels listless at the moment with seemingly no real plans. I hope I'm wrong but I'm getting the horrible feeling the charges outcome is known and it's a horrific outcome.

I think your post slides down the gutter the more you scribbled out that shite. Think on . . . .

 

[Matt Diablo]

Could have been worse after falling behind twice and then playing last 15 with 10 men, given our recent results.
Savinho is powder puff and I'm not convinced he is the sort you need in the trenches.
Poor from Walker to play them onside for their first, not the first time that has happened either.
Quelle surprise, falling behind relatively early doors again
Good spirit from us though....Dias did very well for us, please stay fit
Palace have been picking up of late so ordinarily, would not have been a bad point.
Struggling to recall our last away win...suspect it won't be in Turin this Wednesday.

Kyle is a shot duck wish he moved on to Bayern last summer. Big mistake

 

[Lee the Blue]

Considering the team we fielded and how the game panned out it was a positive point. We are sadly rolling out players who are either average at best, or unfortunately past their best and it shows.

But for Ruben Dias yesterday holding it together at the back we'd have conceded at least 4. Savinho and Nunes belong in Everton's team, not ours. Neither will ever be good enough.

We showed some grit, saw out the game when we went down to 10 and the lads certainly grafted. The problem is the top level ability is missing. As for Ricos red card - the nonsensical first yellow he got for arguing over a foul by KDB is what dropped him in the shit. At least he's banned for the derby which isn't a bad thing tbh. Knowing our luck the ban will be rescinded.