Crystal Palace (N) | FA Cup Final | Post Match Thread

[jimharri]

May be mildly amusing one day.

I never made any mention as to it's amusement factor. I posted it as I thought people might not have seen it.

 

[meltonblue]

Notwithstanding, the issue is did the keeper handle the ball outside the box?
I believe that he did, so at the very least City should have had a free kick.

That wasn’t what I was talking about there.

On the keeper one, it should have been a free kick and a red card. As soon as VAR wrongly didn’t suggest a red card, it can’t be given as a free kick.

 

[Goldust]

Akanji playing over Nunes and Khusanov was criminal, he was like a bus yesterday once all game he got around Sivinho and then Sivinho being Sivinho tried a ridiculous cross. I am not the biggest fan of Doku but at least he showed some balls yesterday, unlike some of the others. People go on about his lack of end product but come on how about the lack of movement in the box by supposedly the best striker in the world, who showed 0 effort. I looked at their team
Yesterday and the GK,RB,CM,LW would have all got in City’s team, that can’t be happening and as I said a few months ago Txiki has been incompetent in his role. Ortega in the bins is also a Championship player at best.

 

[noseve]

He either does fuck all and scores or he does fuck all

Same question, really - did you say that after his first season?

So, if Haaland himself is the issue - and not the way we use him - by definition that means that you'd be happy to see him playing for Liverpool, or United next season, then?

Bollocks, would you :-)

 

[blue by birth]

Living in Cornwall no.

Backing tge 80's and 90,s yes I did...season ticket holder in the dark days....why does it matter?
I mention Grealish as he is the other alternative to the player you are criticising...the one player who at least tries something different

I didn't criticise any player.. show me who I criticised..
You seem to have a pop at Grealish whether he plays or not..I just find it weird why you have such a downer on any player..
I was curious if you actually went to games or just got your opinion from the TV critics..I think I know now.

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

Lost by 1 goal to Wigan.
Lost by 1 goal to the Rags.
Lost by 1 goal to Palace.

Let's be brutally honest, City should have 3 more FA Cups on their honours board.

As for losing FA Cup semi-finals (under Pep), don't get me started on that.

Another very disappointing FA Cup final defeat.

You can add 1 Champions League to that. That selection in Porto still irks me. Though I know it sounds spoiled.

 

[JC2]

I'd say we got what we deserved yesterday, and to a large degree something that many expected.
We have been shot-shy and lacking penetration all season.
The play has been too slow and horizontal, which most teams can now cope with. We don't make the most of our key asset,:
A very big striker who likes to play in the space behind defenders. Pep must find a solution to this conundrum as the need for control is resulting in facing a low block every week and the wrong players being allowed possession by the opposition.

Good luck to Palace who played with a plan and executed this really well.
They had a togetherness we lack as a club too.
Their support was also infinitely better than ours, full of verve and unity. One loud chant on the go and a coordinated approach.
Compare that to our sporadic and desperate approach. There was only going to be one winner and it wasn't City sadly

 

[eyalluvitt]

It's a team with zero confidence. The effort from the attacking players is borderline cowardice - I don't want to try something myself as it might not work, so I'll give it back to the centre halves. It's been happening all season - against Arsenal at home, we kept giving the ball to Dias and it was no different yesterday with him and Akanji.

Doku is the only player to ever try and take anyone on, it just then rarely comes to anything when he does, although I'll question the other attackers for that in part, as no one ever attacks the near post so any cross has to beat defenders and keeper.

David Silva, or KdB and Gundogan a few years ago would make the passes that split a defence; Bernardo could jink past people and force a foul if he didn't get through. Now we just pass it across the back and then to our side of the winger, meaning he has to collect the ball and then try and beat the defender. The lack of proper fullbacks doesn't help, as whilst Walker was shit at crossing, as least him overlapping caused opposition defenders a problem.

There's big issues with the quality of the current squad, but I'd also question the tactics - a manager has to make the most of what is available to him and we're miles off that.

Pep had a week to improve us after the Southampton bin fire performance and came up with the shit sandwich that was yesterday, very very worrying when the cannon fodder teams can now low block us and we have less penetration the John Wayne Bobbitt

 

[shemnel]

Have we had any confirmation yet whether Marmoush was chosen pre match to take a pen, or whether Haaland gave it up there and then in the moment?

Personally I see both as problematic (should he start if he's mentally not there to take a pen), but the latter would be very disappointing.

 

[hertsblue]

We are far too easy to play against, have been all season and the signs were there last season. It's also dull as fuck to watch, ponderous lateral passing....FUCKING BORING!! Go for teams FFS, pace and energy instead 30 passes and end up nowhere.
Makes my Piss boil when players are throwing their arms in the air for the fans to encourage them!?!? Give us something to get excited about you failing twat.
If anyone thinks next year will be different it will not. As long as we stick to this drudgery style of play fuck all will change. Arrogantly playing players out of position is staggering and constantly doing things that are not working is idiotic.
This isn't just about yesterday the signs have been there for all to see.

Marmoush oh dear
Doku no end product
Silvinho always on his arse
Other wonderful players are coming to the end, KDB, Gundo, Bernado
The real horror show is fodens decline.

1 goal in our last 3 games v Wolves, Southampton and Palace, from 57 shots.
We are a team without any goal threat, worst set of non scoring, non creating wingers bar the bottom 3, only 1 striker in the squad is laughable and spent 150 million in January on 4 players with 3 never seen.

 

[fathellensbellend]

I'd say we got what we deserved yesterday, and to a large degree something that many expected.
We have been shot-shy and lacking penetration all season.
The play has been too slow and horizontal, which most teams can now cope with. We don't make the most of our key asset,:
A very big striker who likes to play in the space behind defenders. Pep must find a solution to this conundrum as the need for control is resulting in facing a low block every week and the wrong players being allowed possession by the opposition.

Good luck to Palace who played with a plan and executed this really well.
They had a togetherness we lack as a club too.
Their support was also infinitely better than ours, full of verve and unity. One loud chant on the go and a coordinated approach.
Compare that to our sporadic and desperate approach. There was only going to be one winner and it wasn't City sadly

The worst thing that happened was Akanji and Haaland returning to fitness, they put the doubt in Pep's head and he changed a winning formula to include seniority, and we missed Kovacic our POTS. The loyalty to senior players has cost us for the last 2 seasons, we changed a winning formula for last years final and paid the price, and we did it again yesterday, that's on Pep

 

[eyalluvitt]

This has all the signs of Pellegrini's last season in charge. Players downed tools with results and performances extremely scratchy, and total apathy in the stands

This is worse than that season statistically and we don’t have the comfort blanket of the best manager in the world coming in to improve things.

 

[Grassland Blue]

That wasn’t what I was talking about there.

On the keeper one, it should have been a free kick and a red card. As soon as VAR wrongly didn’t suggest a red card, it can’t be given as a free kick.

Is that so? I didn't know that.
In theory then, a keeper could handle the ball anywhere on the field with no sanction (as long as it wasn't stopping a goalscoring opportunity), yet an outfield player would concede a free kick.
Forgive my confusion?!

 

[waspish]

Pep Guardiola, who has seen these players win it all, is too sentimental to close and thinks more like a player than a manager when it comes to his acquired players, who he now knows so well he can't come to bench them when fully fit! Pep should think like a manager and treat them with the same coldness he treats the new players coming through with coldness!

 

[jimharri]

Still waiting @Gesario.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

This has all the signs of Pellegrini's last season in charge. Players downed tools with results and performances extremely scratchy, and total apathy in the stands

More like Pearce at the moment. !

 

[give it to gordon]

I have never seen so many Palace shirts about the place talk about plastic fans lol

 

[Tolmie scores]

Makes it even more annoying looking at those stats mate

Only one stat that matters sadly...i think it was the non shot stats that mattered most..O'Reilly taking too long when 8 yards out...etc did that twice from memory!

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Pep Guardiola, who has seen these players win it all, is too sentimental to close and thinks more like a player than a manager when it comes to his acquired players, who he now knows so well he can't come to bench them when fully fit! Pep should think like a manager and treat them with the same coldness he treats the new players coming through with coldness!

His sentimentality is very selective then.
Some players are afforded none of it.

 

[xgorton]

Just watching a bit of the Manchester run on BBC before I go out,they zoom in to the swamp and say at least 50% of Manchester will be very happy today,unbelievable.