Crystal Palace PL (H) Post match thread

[Bluewars]

There's a drop in quality in the first team, that cannot be rectified by thier replacements

Gundogan >>> Foden
KDB >>> Alvarez
Stones >>> Lewis
Akanji >>> Walker
Ake >>> Gvardiol

Rodri was our best today, but the truth is he's not a Ferna type DM who covers a ridiculous amount of ground defending counter-attacks, he needs a partner and if Stones cant keep fit sign one (preferably Paulinha) or play Bernardo next to him.

 

[City Raider]

13 goals conceded from last 27 shots on target in the league. That’s pretty damning.

 

[stan bowles]

Bringing John stones on in minute 90 when it was clear we were losing control of the game in minute 75 is criminal.

I thought Pep was taking the piss when he had Stones lined up to come on as Olise was preparing to smash home the penalty on 95 minutes. No idea what he thought that would achieve when he should have made that change when we were 2-0 up after 75 minutes.

 

[paulchapo]

We gave away two points' - Guardiola​

FT: Man City 2-2 Crystal Palace

Manchester City

EPACopyright: EPA
Manchester City boss Pep Guardiola speaking to Match of the Day: "We gave away two points. We had a good performance. We controlled the transitions really well and made a lot of set pieces but Crystal Palace’s second goal cannot happen at this level. We took bad decisions in the 18-yard box and we were punished."

We were punished'​

FT: Man City 2-2 Crystal Palace

Manchester City
Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola speaking to BBC Radio 5 Live: "We give away two points for our mistake and what can I say? We do everything and a team that defends in the box like so, so deep. They arrive and we are punished but we have to be more calm and composed in that position. It is not the first time but it is what it is. Move forward, learn and [go to the] next one.
"It is so difficult, the physicality of them. But yeah the penalty cannot happen. It's happened so at the end in that level they punish you."

Woys view.

Our pride was stolen last week'​

FT: Man City 2-2 Crystal Palace

Crystal Palace
Crystal Palace manager Roy Hodgson speaking to BBC Radio 5 Live: "The masterplan was decided by the fact we had to get our best and most senior players on the pitch, because we have so many missing. It meant finding a way of getting both Ward and Clyne on the field. We did that by moving Ward in one and played with five at the back. Then we decided to take the risk on Eze. We wouldn't have done it at 2-0 and we thought at 2-1 it was worth the risk.
"Last week was specific in the way the game and any joy I thought I should have had from that game and any pride in the team performance was stolen by the way the game panned out."

Patience is the key' - Hodgson​

FT: Man City 2-2 Crystal Palace

Crystal Palace
Crystal Palace manager Roy Hodgson speaking to Match of the Day: "Our first goal changed things really. Michael Olise was posing a few questions with his skill when he got up into that half of the field and I thought Jean-Philippe Mateta was excellent all through the game with his running and holding the ball up but of course, when you’re playing Manchester City in the form they’re in and with the quality of players they have, you’ve got to accept that patience is going to be the key.
"They’re going to have the ball a lot more than you and if you start trying to take chances and attack them too early, then they’re going to cut through you. As it happens, we got to 2-1 which gave us some hope I suppose and we then thought, we’ll take a few chances now and we will have a go at it and luckily it paid off for us."

 

[I'm Blue]

13 goals conceded from last 27 shots on target in the league. That’s pretty damning.

I wonder how many of them started with us giving up possession cheaply?

 

[Newquayblue]

100%

Nonsense!

 

[Claytop]

Can’t even enjoy United getting a twatting by the scousers as much now. Ideally they’d get something out of it…

 

[Lavinda Past]

I know its been disappointing the last month or so but City fans moaning like fuck at Pep need to give their heads a fucking wobble. Won everything, given us some of the best times we've ever had. We don't deserve him after some of the shite directed at him. Talk about entitled.

That's what the rags used to say about the GPC.

Based on performances, I'd say that 23/24 Pep is a serious downgrade on 22/23 Pep.

 

[waspish]

I know its been disappointing the last month or so but City fans moaning like fuck at Pep need to give their heads a fucking wobble. Won everything, given us some of the best times we've ever had. We don't deserve him after some of the shite directed at him. Talk about entitled.

Agree but we can still critique the game the players!

Personally I think the players are mentally fatigued with amount of games played trophies won last 4/5 years!

They've put the effort in but individually making bad mistakes! Dias Walker foden at the end there with the foul for the pen!

Let's win the club World Cup and push on next year

 

[jimharri]

Absolute stonewall penalty mate

Unfortunately, yep. There is an argument that Silva was fouled in the lead up to the penalty. But once that wasn't given, we have to be better. It was poor by Phil.

 

[robbieh]

Of the team that won the CL final. Only 2 have been unavailable long term. One is injured the other sold.
OK Stones has been injured a lot too.

Trying to recreate that side and play as few players out of position

Ederson
Akanji Dias Ake
Lewis Rodri
Foden Kovacic
Bernardo Haaland Grealish

Lewis as inverted fullback. Foden in Kev's place until he's better. Kovacic in Gundo's spot.
Big issues. Lewis does not possess Stones physicality or athleticism. Foden not as good as De Bruyne pure and simple. Kovacic while tidy doesn't present a goal threat.

So I'm guessing Pep looks at this and is underwhelmed so is doing what he often does, starts messing around looking for the key that will unlock the team.

 

[East Level 2]

I make that 10 late goals conceded in the last 9 games now, all in the final 20/25 minutes. That's got to be down to complacency.

Or tiredness, and the stupidity of relying on a small squad given we're likely to play 55+ matches during the season and have a squad full of internationals so they'll be playing additional games.
This might be tolerable in some circumstances but 20-21 was extended due to Covid, 21-22 started slightly late due to Covid and finish slightly early due to the World Cup being held during the 22-23 season which itself ended late with both the FA Cup final and CL final being held in June.
The players are absolutely dead on their feet.

 

[waspish]

We gave away two points' - Guardiola​

FT: Man City 2-2 Crystal Palace

Manchester City
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EPACopyright: EPA
Manchester City boss Pep Guardiola speaking to Match of the Day: "We gave away two points. We had a good performance. We controlled the transitions really well and made a lot of set pieces but Crystal Palace’s second goal cannot happen at this level. We took bad decisions in the 18-yard box and we were punished."

We were punished'​

FT: Man City 2-2 Crystal Palace

Manchester City
Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola speaking to BBC Radio 5 Live: "We give away two points for our mistake and what can I say? We do everything and a team that defends in the box like so, so deep. They arrive and we are punished but we have to be more calm and composed in that position. It is not the first time but it is what it is. Move forward, learn and [go to the] next one.
"It is so difficult, the physicality of them. But yeah the penalty cannot happen. It's happened so at the end in that level they punish you."

Woys view.

Our pride was stolen last week'​

FT: Man City 2-2 Crystal Palace

Crystal Palace
Crystal Palace manager Roy Hodgson speaking to BBC Radio 5 Live: "The masterplan was decided by the fact we had to get our best and most senior players on the pitch, because we have so many missing. It meant finding a way of getting both Ward and Clyne on the field. We did that by moving Ward in one and played with five at the back. Then we decided to take the risk on Eze. We wouldn't have done it at 2-0 and we thought at 2-1 it was worth the risk.
"Last week was specific in the way the game and any joy I thought I should have had from that game and any pride in the team performance was stolen by the way the game panned out."

Patience is the key' - Hodgson​

FT: Man City 2-2 Crystal Palace

Crystal Palace
Crystal Palace manager Roy Hodgson speaking to Match of the Day: "Our first goal changed things really. Michael Olise was posing a few questions with his skill when he got up into that half of the field and I thought Jean-Philippe Mateta was excellent all through the game with his running and holding the ball up but of course, when you’re playing Manchester City in the form they’re in and with the quality of players they have, you’ve got to accept that patience is going to be the key.
"They’re going to have the ball a lot more than you and if you start trying to take chances and attack them too early, then they’re going to cut through you. As it happens, we got to 2-1 which gave us some hope I suppose and we then thought, we’ll take a few chances now and we will have a go at it and luckily it paid off for us."

Hodgson be gone in a month they'll be smashed next few games they are so so poor

 

[minimalistic]

to be honest, I lose might actually what we need.
the players need to learn they need to kill off games
ship 3, 4 before slacking

this is premier leaue

not a bad time to lose and learn lessons

The problem is that we are not learning anything lessons. You think that after Liverpool, Tottenham and Arsenal the team would have learned to hold on to a lead. Absolute bottlers at the moment.

 

[chaddblue]

Fucking disgraceful from the players and management

How the fuck do you concede two goals to a shite team who have half their squad injured, put 11 men behind the ball for 90 minutes, show no interest whatsoever in attacking, appear to be quite happy to settle for a 2-0 defeat.. and only have 2 fucking shots in the whole fucking game. Fucking raging

 

[SCEtoAUX]

My opinion, but I know fuck all: We're desperately missing Kev.

 

[s1ty m]

Lol, got any positives

Lol. Absolutely not. That defence is horrible.

 

[heslops barnet]

Another Match of the Day I won’t be watching tonight……..

 

[Blue and true]

I wonder where’d we be in the league now if we’d somehow managed to persuade one of either Bellingham or Rice to play for us.

Should have strengthened from a position of strength, and you never get better than being current treble winners, with the world’s best manager.

Are these poor transfers all because of ffp? If so we need to fight that off in the courts asap, we can’t let some arbitrary rule created by the red shirts hold us back.

We certainly need to be more ruthless and ambitious in the transfer market, not complacent and arrogant.

This is what infuriates. We should have gone nuclear in the market after the season we had. Instead, we became complacent.

I don't think we're retaining the league, today was the first time I felt this. We just can't seem to get a rhythm going.

If we can get the full squad fit and firing for the second half of the season we've a good chance of retaining the CL.

 

[Atypical]

He doesn't fancy the bench because they aren't good enough to play v Real Madrid or Bayern Munich. But we were playing Crystal palace FFS. If they aren't good enough to play against a Palace side that had settled for a 0-2 defeat until we handed them a draw then they shouldn't be at the club.

It was more to do with complacency in the transfer market, but if Pep keeps flogging the same 11 and not using the bench even if he is not happy with players sat on it. It will just get a load of players injured, fatigued and possibly affect squad harmony. We can’t have one Kalvin Phillips turning into 3 or 4 players.