Cuba Libre

[Postman Pep]

I'll try Kitts and Nevis then.

Caymans , Branson Island etc. If you do all your illicit business electronically you avoid the stigma of being a poverty stricken shithole

 

[johnnytapia]

It's not really between South America and the us, unless you are a particularly drunk people/drug smuggler. Not even certain it's actually a country either?

Shaun Goater’s 32 caps for Bermuda say it is.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Shaun Goater’s 32 caps for Bermuda say it is.

True. But Gibraltar is also recognised by FIFA. 211 recognised Football Associations, only 206 sovereign states (193 UN Members).


It's a British overseas territory, citizens of Bermuda are eligible to obtain a British Overseas passport.

 

[hateutd]

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Insomuch as I very much hope that, "Cuba Libre" is alive and well - and might in the end prevail on its own... there's a salient, recent counterexample to intervention - namely Afghanistan.

Cuba will need to sort out politics on its own - military intervention by foreign powers is only going to cost a lot of lives and money.

Meanwhile - soft-power (sanctions and so forth) might well help Cuba Libre.

 

[urban genie]

Some historic context to Cubas isolations

They estimate that nearly a billion dollars has been wiped off the cuban economy for every year of the US embargo

The HDI lists Cuba in the “high human development” category; it excels not just in health and education, but also in women’s participation and political inclusion. Cuba has eliminated child malnutrition. No children sleep on the streets. In fact, there is no homelessness. Even during the hungry years of economic crisis of the 1990s, Cubans did not starve. Cuba stuck with the planned economy, and it enabled them to ration their scarce resources.

Despite exonomic failings (something all governments suffer) about aboust 85% of Cuban oen their homes and by law rent cannot exceed 4% of a tenant’s income. The state provides a (very) basic food basket while utility bills, transport and medicine costs are kept low. The arts are supported and things like the opera, cinema, concerts and so on are cheap for all. High-quality education and healthcare are free.

Infant mortality rate is one of the lowest ranked as one ot he highest successess as 4th in the world for survival, pissing on Americas record.

Tens of thousands of Cuban doctors, educators and other development aid workers have served around the world. At present near on 40,000 Cuban doctors and nurses work in 77 countries. In addition, Cuba provides both free medical treatment and free medical training to thousands of foreigners every year. As a direct initiative of Fidel, in 1999, the Latin American School of Medicine was inaugurated in Havana to provide foreign students from poor countries with six years of training and accommodation completely free. In 2004, Cuba teamed up with Venezuela to provide free eye surgery to people in three dozen countries under Operation Miracle. In the first ten years more than 3m people had their sight restored.

Being denied the ability to buy eveb basic medicine or trade with certain Pharma companies Cuba now owns around 900 patents and markets pharmaceutical products and vaccines in 40 countries, with the potential for massive expansion. The sector produces more than 70% of the medicines consumed by its 11m people. The entire industry is state owned, research programmes respond to the needs of the population, and all surpluses are reinvested into the sector.

In the mid-1980s Cuba developed the world’s first Meningitis B vaccine. Today, it leads in oncology drugs. In 2012 Cuba patented the first therapeutic cancer vaccine. The US embargo forces Cuba to source medicines, medical devices and radiology products outside the United States, incurring additional transportation costs.

God forbid America got it's grubby claws back into to Cuba and it's Phama industry and made it unaffordable and unaccesable to so many unless proffit was at the heart

Now onto the Cuba Libre.

Cubans were promised reforms both economically and democratically, these reforms are yet to happen, though the governent blames the pandemic for stalling such.
The tight restriction imposed during the Covid outbreak, though praised for keeping infection low have been blasted are too strict and draconian by Cubans.
The restriction impossed has near wiped put Cubas economic boost from overseas toirism and payments made by thise overseas Cuban workers mentioned up top has virtually disappeared wiping out a major part of it's annual economy
Cubas insitance on creating their own vaccine on the back of being refused free ones through the COVAX scheme has left the roll out slow and inconsistant, leading to amger.
An concerted campaign since the early 10s on the american ZunZuneo channel has been actively encouraging protest and decent amongst Cubans.

Rather than stirring the pot as people suffer from the effects of a pandemic, for political and ideological gain as Biden has, Countries like Cuba and others need supports not embargos and sanctions, now is not the time for opportunism, help Cuba recover and then let the people decide what they want their future to be.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

I was pointing out how utterly failed the Cuban political system is/ was. Your post merely affirmed that. Others seem to think free dental treatment is a panacea. The Cuban government is a dictatorial sham, that has caused utter ruin to its populace. And You don’t need to visit Havana to know that .

The American govt and western govts economic strangulation of Cuba has caused ruin to the Cuban economy.
All brought in out of spite that the Cuban people chose to take their country back from the control of American gangsters. Literal American gangsters.
Ive been to Cuba twice and I can tell you for certain that the vast vast vast majority of Cubans are happy with their lot and would rather die than return to the days when they were governed by gangsters.
Viva Fidel! Viva Che! Viva La Revolución.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Some historic context to Cubas isolations

They estimate that nearly a billion dollars has been wiped off the cuban economy for every year of the US embargo

The HDI lists Cuba in the “high human development” category; it excels not just in health and education, but also in women’s participation and political inclusion. Cuba has eliminated child malnutrition. No children sleep on the streets. In fact, there is no homelessness. Even during the hungry years of economic crisis of the 1990s, Cubans did not starve. Cuba stuck with the planned economy, and it enabled them to ration their scarce resources.

Despite exonomic failings (something all governments suffer) about aboust 85% of Cuban oen their homes and by law rent cannot exceed 4% of a tenant’s income. The state provides a (very) basic food basket while utility bills, transport and medicine costs are kept low. The arts are supported and things like the opera, cinema, concerts and so on are cheap for all. High-quality education and healthcare are free.

Infant mortality rate is one of the highest in the world, pissing on Americas record.

Tens of thousands of Cuban doctors, educators and other development aid workers have served around the world. At present near on 40,000 Cuban doctors and nurses work in 77 countries. In addition, Cuba provides both free medical treatment and free medical training to thousands of foreigners every year. As a direct initiative of Fidel, in 1999, the Latin American School of Medicine was inaugurated in Havana to provide foreign students from poor countries with six years of training and accommodation completely free. In 2004, Cuba teamed up with Venezuela to provide free eye surgery to people in three dozen countries under Operation Miracle. In the first ten years more than 3m people had their sight restored.

Being denied the ability to buy eveb basic medicine or trade with certain Pharma companies Cuba now owns around 900 patents and markets pharmaceutical products and vaccines in 40 countries, with the potential for massive expansion. The sector produces more than 70% of the medicines consumed by its 11m people. The entire industry is state owned, research programmes respond to the needs of the population, and all surpluses are reinvested into the sector.

In the mid-1980s Cuba developed the world’s first Meningitis B vaccine. Today, it leads in oncology drugs. In 2012 Cuba patented the first therapeutic cancer vaccine. The US embargo forces Cuba to source medicines, medical devices and radiology products outside the United States, incurring additional transportation costs.

God forbid America got it's grubby claws back into to Cuba and it's Phama industry and made it unaffordable and unaccesable to so many unless proffit was at the heart

Now onto the Cuba Libre.

Cubans were promised reforms both economically and democratically, these reforms are yet to happen, though the governent blames the pandemic for stalling such.
The tight restriction imposed during the Covid outbreak, though praised for keeping infection low have been blasted are too strict and draconian by Cubans.
Tge restriction impossed has near wiped put Cubas economic boost from overseas toirism and payments made by thise overseas Cuban workers mentioned up top has virtually disappeared wiping out a major part of it's annual economy
Cubas insitance on creating their own vaccine on the back of being refused free ones through the COVAX scheme has left the roll out slow and inconsistant, leading to amger.
An concerted campaign since the early 10s on the american ZunZuneo channel has been actively encouraging protest and decent amongst Cubans.

Rather than stirring the pot as people suffer from the effects of a pandemic, for political and ideological gain as Biden has, Countries like Cuba and others need supports not embargos and sanctions, now is not the time for opportunism, help Cuba recover and then let the people decide what they want their future to be.

You omitted to include that they have one of the highest literacy rates in the world with close on 100% of the population being able to read and write. (100% of over 15's )This was achieved in the 1960's in the 'Year of education' and was aided by youngsters and students teaching the illiterate (very often family members).

Cuban literacy campaign - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This compares to the UK's literacy rate of 99% with an average reading age of 9.

List of Countries By Literacy Rate

The rate of literacy refers to the ability to sufficiently read and write. Many factors, such as accessibility and quality of education, can contribute to these rates.

www.worldatlas.com

Cuba does what Cuba does (despite the USA)

 

[urban genie]

Ran out of tomatoes!!!! No dig at you Bluemanc but it sums up the whole Cuban shambles. Their government can claim to give out as many free dental bridges as they want, but the reality is thus: no tomatoes. Maybe it’s not sunny enough.

Shops here are running out of food and supplies, children goimg hungry and some in clothes for more than a day, and we get a tax hike to pay four our free healthcare, a new law is coming into effect curbing civil protest and more stricter control on anti- government voices

Hopefully, the British people will, one day, release the shackles of the Capitalist cunts that have utterly failed them.

 

[PragueBlue]

Ive been to Cuba twice and I can tell you for certain that the vast vast vast majority of Cubans are happy with their lot and would rather die than return to the days when they were governed by gangsters.

Perhaps there are alternatives to dictatorships and gangsters.

I haven't been there once, let alone twice, so obviously can't speak for the vast majority of Cubans but maybe they'd welcome the opportunity to have democratic elections and make their own choice.