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leighton said:
The cookie monster said:
leighton said:
I know that mate thats why yesterday I thought you quotes for Frankel was way over the odds like miles over the odds. Might end up like his pop Galileo and be a champion sire in years to come but until he produces some group winners he wont get the bigger fees. I think £30,000 a pop at the best and then see how it goes with his horses. Pour Moi is €20,000 a pop. Oh and Fastnet Rocket is also a private sale as well.
Giants Causeway is $85,000 a pop in the US stud.
Fastnet Rocket is $220,000 Aus , So You Think is $66,000 Aus , High Chaparral is $77,000 Aus Encosta De Lago is $82,500 Aus.
Some amount of money that is in stud fees. Also expect St Nicholas Abbey to be sent to stud in the US after winning a Breeders Cup Group 1 race last season.

Also news on Camelot hot off the press The Surgery went well with Camelot and the veterinary team are delighted with its progress so far.
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No way £30'000 mate,def way over that..
£250'000 maybe to much fair enough,am still going for £150'000
Frankel is a one off and we will not see the like of him again,he would of beaten all them horses running backwards you have just named and for that reason folk will be queueing up to pay top notch and hoping he delivers a superstar..
I also remember matt chapman debating this maybe 6 months ago on the racing channel and they were quoting 6 figures....I guess we will know soon enough :)
Take a look at this article from a year ago,he reckons £100'000 is being conservative and frankel is twice the horse now..

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/racing/article-2046593/Frankel-worth-100m-ahead-QEII-Ascot.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/racing ... Ascot.html</a>
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I still cant see it Cookie its way too much and as I said you only get the top money when you get the top money when you sire a couple of Group 1 winners. Also to say he would of beaten all them horses backwards come on mate over a mile yes but futher not too sure to be honest.
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To be honest they step him up to 1 mile 2 and he probably produces his finest performance
He dismantled a top field which had group 1 winners and a breeders cup winner with ultimate ease in the juddmonte
I have no doubt he would of won the arc in the same manner had they gone down that route
Be great if he could of stayed on as a 5 year old..
 
The cookie monster said:
leighton said:
The cookie monster said:
No way £30'000 mate,def way over that..
£250'000 maybe to much fair enough,am still going for £150'000
Frankel is a one off and we will not see the like of him again,he would of beaten all them horses running backwards you have just named and for that reason folk will be queueing up to pay top notch and hoping he delivers a superstar..
I also remember matt chapman debating this maybe 6 months ago on the racing channel and they were quoting 6 figures....I guess we will know soon enough :)
Take a look at this article from a year ago,he reckons £100'000 is being conservative and frankel is twice the horse now..

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/racing/article-2046593/Frankel-worth-100m-ahead-QEII-Ascot.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/racing ... Ascot.html</a>
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I still cant see it Cookie its way too much and as I said you only get the top money when you get the top money when you sire a couple of Group 1 winners. Also to say he would of beaten all them horses backwards come on mate over a mile yes but futher not too sure to be honest.
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To be honest they step him up to 1 mile 2 and he probably produces his finest performance
He dismantled a top field which had group 1 winners and a breeders cup winner with ultimate ease in the juddmonte
I have no doubt he would of won the arc in the same manner had they gone down that route
Be great if he could of stayed on as a 5 year old..
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Staying on as a 5 year old will not add value to his stud fee's now, it could only damage it if the unthinkable happened and he got beat. Probably the greatest racehorse ever, he will command massive stud fees, hopefully he sires some great horses. I regret not going to York a few weeks ago to watch him now.
 
Bluebee2 said:
The cookie monster said:
leighton said:
I still cant see it Cookie its way too much and as I said you only get the top money when you get the top money when you sire a couple of Group 1 winners. Also to say he would of beaten all them horses backwards come on mate over a mile yes but futher not too sure to be honest.
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To be honest they step him up to 1 mile 2 and he probably produces his finest performance
He dismantled a top field which had group 1 winners and a breeders cup winner with ultimate ease in the juddmonte
I have no doubt he would of won the arc in the same manner had they gone down that route
Be great if he could of stayed on as a 5 year old..
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Staying on as a 5 year old will not add value to his stud fee's now, it could only damage it if the unthinkable happened and he got beat. Probably the greatest racehorse ever, he will command massive stud fees, hopefully he sires some great horses. I regret not going to York a few weeks ago to watch him now.
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Correct
Not seen him myself,last chance next sat at ascot........
 
Frankels first race over 2 years ago,and look who was second..
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.attheraces.com/form.aspx?raceid=283874&meetingid=&date=2010-08-13&ref=form&refsite=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.attheraces.com/form.aspx?rac ... m&refsite=</a>

And frankels last race on saturday could be the same outcome except for the 7/4 s.p

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.attheraces.com/card.aspx?raceid=717352&meetingid=&date=2012-10-20&ref=form&refsite=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.attheraces.com/card.aspx?rac ... m&refsite=</a>

Amazing that these two horses started out in that maiden.
 
welcometomanchester said:
beyondanytherapy said:
Buicks on fire today......
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Forget Buick look at Hughes!
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Exactly


13.50 Pivotal moment R hughes 13/8 1st
14.30 East texas red R hughes 5/2 1st
15.05 Embankment R hughes 7/1 1st
15.35 Magic secret R hughes 4/1 1st

And 3 more rides to go
 
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