Daily Horse Racing \ Tipping thread

pieface said:
Tatts sale first day top lot 800,000,today 1.3m for a yearling haha crazy money.
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It is crazy
But go back 25 years and robert sangster bought seattle dancer for $13 million
Lots of yearlings bought for $5 to $10 million in them days..

Doesnt always work out either
Look at the green monkey bought by coolmore $16 million,ran 3 times unplaced all 3 and then retired....Stud fee $5'000.
 
ive been reading about Sangster in vincent obriens book,them going over to the states buying up the blood to come back and build the legacy we see today.
Galileo is just the king....., sale starts at 11,we have two lots early 388 and 403,lot of big players looked at 403 with their vets...
 
388 150k.......403..700,000 gns...result,went to 600 and this guy blew them all out of the water with 100,000....top lot so far.will post up when they name her and send her to a trainer.
 
Yesterday was pretty dismal, here goes for today;

L15
Jewellery 2.50 Exeter 5th
Tim the Chair 3.20 Exeter 4th
Southway Star 4.20 Exeter
Prompter 5.00 Worc (The Lemonpie who I tipped here a month back when it came 2nd and then I missed it the next 3 times when it has run again and might I add won on all 3 occasions [bloody typical] is also running so i've backed it EW in single @ 6-1).

EW L15
Another Trump 2.30 Worc NR -> The Lemonpie 5.00 Worc
Chookie Royale 3.10 Ayr NR -> I Confess 5.40 Ayr
Moheeb 5.10 Ayr
Noble Citizen 7.50 Kemp
 
Just a quick question about the sales? Know if your owner like Coolmore with the top class horses they have does every horse thats breed go to the sales or can they keep the best of the lot and send the rest to the sales? Or is it a case of it all goes to the sales.
As for the blood look at Goldolphin in recent years they have being buying up a lot of Irish based horses over the recent years to get the blood lines in. IF any horse has a bit of Galileo in them at Welds Goldolphin will pounce if its a decent horse. They all want some of Galileo. I do wonder how many millions they will make from Galileo over the next 10 to 15 years that horse is printing money for Coolmore.
 
leighton said:
Just a quick question about the sales? Know if your owner like Coolmore with the top class horses they have does every horse thats breed go to the sales or can they keep the best of the lot and send the rest to the sales? Or is it a case of it all goes to the sales.
As for the blood look at Goldolphin in recent years they have being buying up a lot of Irish based horses over the recent years to get the blood lines in. IF any horse has a bit of Galileo in them at Welds Goldolphin will pounce if its a decent horse. They all want some of Galileo. I do wonder how many millions they will make from Galileo over the next 10 to 15 years that horse is printing money for Coolmore.
Aparently one of the last figures on record for galileo's stud fee was about £180'000 a pop,5 years ago....Should imagine its gone up bigtime.

How about this beast though

Between 1974 and 1988, twelve times Northern Dancer yearlings led the Keeneland July Selected Yearling Sale by average price. In the 1983 Keeneland Sales horse auction, one of Windfields' colts, that would eventually be named Snaafi Dancer, became the first $10 million yearling. In 1984 his twelve yearlings sold for an unrivaled sale-record average of price of US$3,446.666.[4]
In the 1980s, Northern Dancer's stud fee reached US$1 million, an amount four to five times his rivals and a record amount that as of 2009 has not been equalled.[5]
Although he has been dead for almost twenty years, there are more Northern Dancer-line Breeder's Cup winners than any other horse. According to France Galop, since 1994 the male bloodline of every Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe winner goes back to Nearco, his son Nasrullah, and his grandson Northern Dancer.
Northern Dancer is also the paternal grandsire of several prominent stallions, including Storm Cat, Deputy Minister, El Prado, and Danehill. He is the great-grandsire (on both the sire and dam side) of Big Brown, the winner of the 2008 Kentucky Derby and Preakness Stakes. Northern Dancer is the great-grandsire of Australia's superstar mare, Makybe Diva. He is an ancestor of the winners of all three U.S. Triple Crown races in 2009—Mine That Bird in the Kentucky Derby, Rachel Alexandra in the Preakness, and Summer Bird in the Belmont. He is on both sides of the pedigrees of Mine That Bird and Rachel Alexandra. He is the great-great-grandsire of Sea the Stars. Undefeated racehorse, Frankel, is inbred 3 x 4 to Northern Dancer, meaning that Northern Dancer appears once in the third generation and once in the fourth generation of his pedigree. Northern Dancer is the great-great-grandsire (all paternal) to undefeated Australian mare Black Caviar.

Storm cat was also charging half a million to empty his sacks,and in his early days was only $20'000..........


By all accounts Frankel is going to stand at about £250'000 a pump :)

Theres some money in this game!
 
Cookie I dont think Frankel will be able to demand that in stud fees thats a lot of money. The big money will only come home when Frankel has a couple of Group 1 winners under his belt. I dont even think Sea The Stars is getting that money yet.

Just looking at Coolmore it has a little note on the stallions at the sales and so far Galileo has Galileo fillies costing 1.5 million gns and 1.3 million gns headed the way at Tattersalls on Wednesday as the champion sire dominated proceedings at the October Yearling Sale some money that.

Also just reading a bit into the stallions and on Yeats.

€100,000 for son of Yeats
1st February 2012

A first-crop Yeats yearling produced the highest price seen in 18 years at the Tattersalls Ireland February Sale on Tuesday when selling for €100,000.

Thats some money for them. The money for some of the stud fees at Coolmore dont look too bad for some top class horses. I think your looking at way too much for the Frankel at the moment in my opinion who would be mad enough to give a quater of a million for a horse who might well be shooting blanks and may not be able to produce the group winners. IF hes like the dad then he will get those fees in the future but not just yet.
 
leighton said:
Cookie I dont think Frankel will be able to demand that in stud fees thats a lot of money. The big money will only come home when Frankel has a couple of Group 1 winners under his belt. I dont even think Sea The Stars is getting that money yet.

Just looking at Coolmore it has a little note on the stallions at the sales and so far Galileo has Galileo fillies costing 1.5 million gns and 1.3 million gns headed the way at Tattersalls on Wednesday as the champion sire dominated proceedings at the October Yearling Sale some money that.

Also just reading a bit into the stallions and on Yeats.

€100,000 for son of Yeats
1st February 2012

A first-crop Yeats yearling produced the highest price seen in 18 years at the Tattersalls Ireland February Sale on Tuesday when selling for €100,000.

Thats some money for them. The money for some of the stud fees at Coolmore dont look too bad for some top class horses. I think your looking at way too much for the Frankel at the moment in my opinion who would be mad enough to give a quater of a million for a horse who might well be shooting blanks and may not be able to produce the group winners. IF hes like the dad then he will get those fees in the future but not just yet.
Maybe ive gone £100'000 over on frankels stud fees
Could be a £100 million horse though mate..
 
this one came in and smashed us off the top lot of the day,Hydrogen look out for him next summer.
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