Dani Alves

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They're comparable in that they're both obviously attack orientated fullbacks with a penchant for being caught out defensively.

But that's not true. It's lazy, tired bullshit. it's like saying Andros Townsend and Sterling are the same because they're both English wingers.

Alves is a great defender for modern football. Doubly so in a Guardiola team, where he's defending space, he's pushing wingers back into their own half because they are struggling to deal with him, he's superb 1v1, and he knows exactly what position to be in. He's brilliant at stepping into midfield and winning the ball back before an attack can start, or even to make sure the ball isn't lost in the first place. He is an outstanding defender for any team who considers themselves to be possession based.

Difference between Barcelona with Alves and Barcelona without? Conceding 30% more goals.

Maicon, yes, he would push up and then rely on his pace and physicality to make up for mistakes, in many ways like Walker before Pochettino got his hands on him, but that's why he was gone so quickly, being one of the best in the world for only 2 years, he had nothing upstairs, he was figured out.
 
Just to prove we were conceding chances v real Madrid.

Maicon did fuck all, same as the rest, & Alves was no worse than any of them in that vid, this season, v Real Madrid is my point.

He might actually have been better, than the passive defending we see from everyone bar Kompany (defending, not that well, on his own) that we see in that vid, which was City at their peak fitness.

Real Madrid is no game to judge Alves.
He's playing in a back 5 with Bonucci/Chiellini/Barzagli/Sandro, not sure how you couldn't worry for him playing in our back line in a much quicker league when he's struggling with the pace in certain CL games playing with 4 world class defenders alongside.
 
For them, yes.

For City, we will have to see. But that is the same with Walker, Mendy & anyone else.

We don't know, until they play.

What we do know is that he knows exactly how he needs to play in Peps System, and can be the benchmark for the others to reach. As Graham Hunter described in BillyShears podcast, he would be a template signing. One that all the rest of the squad should look to matching
 
But that's not true. It's lazy, tired bullshit.

Alves is a great defender by modern standards, and doubly so in a Guardiola team, where he's defending space, he's pushing wingers back into their own half because they are struggling to deal with him, he's superb 1v1, and he knows exactly what position to be in. He's brilliant at stepping into midfield and winning the ball back before an attack can start, or even to make sure the ball isn't lost in the first place. He is an outstanding defender for any team who considers themselves to be possession based.

Maicon, yes, he would push up and then rely on his pace and physicality to make up for mistakes, in many ways like Walker before Pochettino got his hands on him, but that's why he was gone so quickly, being one of the best in the world for only 2 years, he had nothing upstairs, he was figured out.
I disagree. He has been caught out plenty of times over the years, one of the reasons top clubs keep moving him on and replacing instead of keeping him around.

Feel like this'll go round in circles tbh so we'll just wait and see what happens next season. I hope he can adapt (and it is more hope than expectation).
 
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