Daniel Agger (continued)

[Y.N.W.A.]

The point you missed was 'we may want him but we're not in need of him' That puts us firmly in the box seat.

The counterpoint to that is we don't want to sell. The only reason we may have looked to sell was because the offer was far too good to turn down but beyond that Agger will remain a Liverpool player. It only makes sense to us if the money involved is mad money.

 

[Rammy Blue]

The point you missed was 'we may want him but we're not in need of him' That puts us firmly in the box seat.

The counterpoint to that is we don't want to sell. The only reason we may have looked to sell was because the offer was far too good to turn down but beyond that Agger will remain a Liverpool player. It only makes sense to us if the money involved is mad money.

Come off it fella, you know full well that you've got to sell a player to fund your acquisitions.

There's hardly a queue forming for Carroll.....

 

[Marvin]

You've made some good valid points. It's my opinion that if this whole saga was left up to Agger alone he would not leave Liverpool. However, why would you not want Adam Johnson? He's a lot better than anything you've got on either flank.

Part of the reason he hasn't really fitted in at City is because you're looking to move away from the traditional quick pacy wingers. You want intelligent players like Silva (btw My fav player in the league), Aguero, Tevez etc who can all move and interchange and play football together.

Rodgers has the same vision for Liverpool. He may have got lumbered with rubbish like Downing but going forward it's going to be intelligent footballers on the same scale as you're trying to build only for now a level below for us in terms of quality. I don't think Johnson fits that MO.

He has done well at City precisely because he is the exact opposite of the classic English pacy winger. He can dribble, and his passing ability and control is at the same level as Nasri, Silva etc. Some City fans don't like him as much as I do, and they'll say different! But don't let them fool you, they are mistaken

 

[Joehannes]

Fair enough maybe I haven't seen enough of Johnson but he always struck me as someone who doesn't fit in well with other players trying to play football with interchange and movement. I'd always thought his main attributes were that he was direct and pacy.

Maybe I'm being harsh but his main attributes are being fucked after an hour, then standing on the halfway line scratching his arse, only to score a goal late on that will get him on MOTD.
In all seriousness, he's got an eye for a pass, but he doesn't use that eye often enough when he gets the chance, he'd probably thrive in a front three that moved about with Borini and Suarez, if he could sort his fitness out because. He can put players into scoring positions from a central position but very rarely from out wide. In fairness though, he gets on MOTD because he's an excellent finisher.

 

[Rammy Blue]

You've made some good valid points. It's my opinion that if this whole saga was left up to Agger alone he would not leave Liverpool. However, why would you not want Adam Johnson? He's a lot better than anything you've got on either flank.

Part of the reason he hasn't really fitted in at City is because you're looking to move away from the traditional quick pacy wingers. You want intelligent players like Silva (btw My fav player in the league), Aguero, Tevez etc who can all move and interchange and play football together.

Rodgers has the same vision for Liverpool. He may have got lumbered with rubbish like Downing but going forward it's going to be intelligent footballers on the same scale as you're trying to build only for now a level below for us in terms of quality. I don't think Johnson fits that MO.

He has done well at City precisely because he is the exact opposite of the classic English pacy winger. He can dribble, and his passing ability and control is at the same level as Nasri, Silva etc. Some City fans don't like him as much as I do, and they'll say different! But don't let them fool you, they are mistaken

Bloody hell Marv, put the crackpipe down, you'd been doing well this evening until now!

 

[Joehannes]

You've made some good valid points. It's my opinion that if this whole saga was left up to Agger alone he would not leave Liverpool. However, why would you not want Adam Johnson? He's a lot better than anything you've got on either flank.

Part of the reason he hasn't really fitted in at City is because you're looking to move away from the traditional quick pacy wingers. You want intelligent players like Silva (btw My fav player in the league), Aguero, Tevez etc who can all move and interchange and play football together.

Rodgers has the same vision for Liverpool. He may have got lumbered with rubbish like Downing but going forward it's going to be intelligent footballers on the same scale as you're trying to build only for now a level below for us in terms of quality. I don't think Johnson fits that MO.

He has done well at City precisely because he is the exact opposite of the classic English pacy winger. He can dribble, and his passing ability and control is at the same level as Nasri, Silva etc. Some City fans don't like him as much as I do, and they'll say different! But don't let them fool you, they are mistaken

I understand that it's all about opinions, Marvin but that in bold is simply ridiculous.

 

[Matt.D]

Fair enough maybe I haven't seen enough of Johnson but he always struck me as someone who doesn't fit in well with other players trying to play football with interchange and movement. I'd always thought his main attributes were that he was direct and pacy.

He's not as fast as you think but his movement is decent, he's better at beating a man at close distance rather than push and run. He contributes more often than not when he plays in terms of goals/ assists. He suffers from us not playing with wingers, not getting played regularly partly because of that combined with the fact that he hasn't quite lived up to the billing in the big big games but with all due respect and not to patronise but your a few years away from playing in those type of games.

 

[Y.N.W.A.]

I think you have a point but Rodgers played with wide players at Swansea and I think he will with you, he loved Sinclair and Dyer on the flanks. If you are going to play with wingers, which only time will tell, then Johnson is a massive upgrade. I'd be gutted if we lost him from our squad, especially if we replace him for a not as good Scott Sinclair.

Well I am only going from the first competitive game with Suarez the other night. He had Suarez in a false nine role with Gerrard behind and Borini and Downing either side with two holding in midfield. Much the same as you often used last season formation wise. I think this will work really well in the coming season if we can just replace Downing with a more clever player. Problem is I don't think we've the money to do that without the sale of Agger

Injuries aside what's your opinion on Daniel Agger? Is he up there with the best in his position in the world?

If Agger had stayed fit throughout his career he would be considered amongst the best in the world. He reads the game superbly, strong, quick but the thing which is why is price is so high is he's a proper ball playing CB which is fairly rare to find.

This is a good piece written on him today and will tell you all you need to know about him.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2012/08/is-it-owner-and-out-for-daniel-agger/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2012/08/i ... iel-agger/</a>

 

[Marvin]

Fair enough maybe I haven't seen enough of Johnson but he always struck me as someone who doesn't fit in well with other players trying to play football with interchange and movement. I'd always thought his main attributes were that he was direct and pacy.

Maybe I'm being harsh but his main attributes are being fucked after an hour, then standing on the halfway line scratching his arse, only to score a goal late on that will get him on MOTD.
In all seriousness, he's got an eye for a pass, but he doesn't use that eye often enough when he gets the chance, he'd probably thrive in a front three that moved about with Borini and Suarez, if he could sort his fitness out because. He can put players into scoring positions from a central position but very rarely from out wide. In fairness though, he gets on MOTD because he's an excellent finisher.

He may not feature on the ball as much as the central players, but every game he plays he makes a goal making contribution. Outstanding footballer. The exact opposite of Walcott

 

[SilvaisSkyBlue]

The point you missed was 'we may want him but we're not in need of him' That puts us firmly in the box seat.

The counterpoint to that is we don't want to sell. The only reason we may have looked to sell was because the offer was far too good to turn down but beyond that Agger will remain a Liverpool player. It only makes sense to us if the money involved is mad money.

You make some good points in your posts, but ''MAD MONEY'' is what Liverpool paid for Carroll, Downing, Henderson and the mighty Adam.

Those 4 gems were 80-85 million!!! Yes we know you got 50 million for Torres but the money was well and truly squandered by KK.

I personally think that if Liverpool want more than 20 million for Agger then City should move on to other targets, 25+ million is not far of what players like Martinez are available for and IMO he would be much better value.