Danilo

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There's no comparison between him and Sandro, Sandro has improved every season since he was at Porto while Danilo got his big money move to Madrid and never kicked on and seemed to stagnate. A lot of folks are grasping at straws here and trying to convince themselves he's good enough. Also this notion that he can play in 3 positions? He played once for Porto in CDM role and that qualifies him to play CDM? No thanks.
 
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There's no comparison between him and Sandro, Sandro has improved every season since he was at Porto while Danilo got his big money move to Madrid and never kicked on and seemed to stagnate. A lot of folks are grasping at straws here and trying to convince themselves he's good enough. Also this notion that he can play in 3 positions? He played once for Porto in CDM role and that qualifies him to play CDM? No thanks.
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You're right that Sandro has gotten better, but he's played a lot more and in the possibly the best defence in the world as a wing back - which I think we can all agree is easier than being just a full back. Give him some actual minutes and a proper coach and I think he'll come good, especially because he's desperate to go to the world cup and will give his all.

There's no point everyone whinging about Maffeo because he looked good in one game against the rags, obviously Pep doesn't think one game is enough to make the lad. I like Maffeo a lot but I have to agree, he's one injury to Walker away from starting every game and we have no evidence he would even have the stamina for that.

30 million is a good price, not great but good enough. Where else are we going to get a rotation right back with Champions League and International experience for that price? For that matter, who else is even available?

Also if Chelsea want this guy and we jump in and steal their target, that's got to be worth some bonus points, right?
 
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You're right that Sandro has gotten better, but he's played a lot more and in the possibly the best defence in the world as a wing back - which I think we can all agree is easier than being just a full back. Give him some actual minutes and a proper coach and I think he'll come good, especially because he's desperate to go to the world cup and will give his all.

There's no point everyone whinging about Maffeo because he looked good in one game against the rags, obviously Pep doesn't think one game is enough to make the lad. I like Maffeo a lot but I have to agree, he's one injury to Walker away from starting every game and we have no evidence he would even have the stamina for that.

30 million is a good price, not great but good enough. Where else are we going to get a rotation right back with Champions League and International experience for that price? For that matter, who else is even available?

Also if Chelsea want this guy and we jump in and steal their target, that's got to be worth some bonus points, right?
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As I stated he's stagnated awfully, For £30 million we'd be hoping that he can become decent again and regain his Porto form under Pep while playing back up/rotating with Walker? Can't see it myself as it's too much of a similar situation to his situation at Real Madrid right now.

As for Maffeo, I have no problem with him being on loan at Girona and I don't think he's the answer that a lot of people think he is at the minute.

30 million is the going rate is it not? Since the Alves debacle, people are almost saying give me any RB signing as that'll do and it reeks of desperation.

As for who else is available, Perreira would be in with a shout surely? Karsdrop was available for €14 million, wasn't he?

Chelsea will be replacing Moses with Danilo won't they? That makes sense for them as he'd be an upgrade as we'd be signing him to be back up to Walker and rotate with him.
 
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There's no point everyone whinging about Maffeo because he looked good in one game against the rags, obviously Pep doesn't think one game is enough to make the lad.
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He's not "just" played well in one game against United though.

He played well on the preseason tours he went on, he played well in the other 2 games he was given and was then told all he needed was some experience playing in a real professional league like the La Masia kids used to, so he went and played 30-odd games in the division above Barcelona B, in a ridiculously tight, high pressure promotion race.

So he did what Pep asked, but because Dani Alves, probably the best RB of the last 10 years and the most Pep player around, was available, he was told to go on loan for a year at Girona, you'll get valuable experience while Alves is 35 and won't last long at all.

So then the Alves deal falls through and at this point every other club in the world - especially the clubs we are trying to emulate - would just use Maffeo, but Manchester City is going to buy a 26 year old, condemning another very promising youth player to leave City without getting a chance.

But we're not just buying a 26 year old - we're buying one who's leaving Madrid as something of a laughing stock because of his inability to defend. Maybe he'll come in and be reborn under Guardiola, but if he's not, we've scrapped another academy kid for a bang average player.

If Maffeo, represented by Guardiola's brother, with loan experience and good showings in a City shirt, in a season when both senior RB's have to be replaced and a transfer falls through last minute, can't get a chance in the team than no one will and we might as well stop pretending the academy is ever going to produce players for the first team, and Khaldoon can stop spouting bollocks about how he and Mansour want to see a team full of academy players.
 
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Madrid fans don't rate him then.
This the same madrid fans that boo players for one missplaced pass, as a set of fans they make our bunch of matchday moaners look like ths most posisitve in the world.

Cannot say I know enough to form a positive or negative opinion, but he obviously seems to be considered good enough by conte and pep so I will trust they know better
 
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