Daunte Wright Killed by Minnesota Officer Following Traffic Stop

The gun is on your dominent side , the tasar is on your weaker side so you dont make a mistake , training , also arent tasars yellow in places and has a different trigger, experienced officer

Unforgivable mistake and rightly ruled a homocide
 
Dax777 said:
The 2 bolded points aren't factual. There was nothing about it that was confusing. And it's not clear fright was the motivating factor. Could be but it's not clear.


Good writeup. But I'd edit the noted above to remove all opinion and stay strictly factual. Not that I'm your editor or anything :)
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>> But I'd edit the noted above to remove all opinion and stay strictly factual. Not that I'm your editor or anything :)
I was actually on my 3rd or 4th such edit - it's hard to remain completely unbiased - good point.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
>> But I'd edit the noted above to remove all opinion and stay strictly factual. Not that I'm your editor or anything :)
I was actually on my 3rd or 4th such edit - it's hard to remain completely unbiased - good point.
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Totally understandable. I could tell from reading it that your goal was to be as factually accurate as possible.
 
kaz7 said:
The gun is on your dominent side , the tasar is on your weaker side so you dont make a mistake , training , also arent tasars yellow in places and has a different trigger, experienced officer

Unforgivable mistake and rightly ruled a homocide
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See my post about my often trying to open my apartment door with my garage door opener - muscle memory.

Agree though - that police training needs to take muscle memory into account - for example, might training also include the mandatory instruction to state "drawing my taser!" - "looking at my taser - yes, it's my taser, it's yellow!" - prior to shouting "Taser, Taser, Taser!?" - such training - though I don't see that it's at all part of any national/local practise - might have prevented this apparent accidental death.
 
Apparently there was a warrant out for his arrest, as indicated above.
It was for attempted aggravated robbery, choking and holding a woman at
gunpoint for $820 in 2019, which, if true, is armed robbery with violence.
The online speculation that he didn't know there was a warrant out for his address is false.
Found this just, a Mail exclusive, I put it in the BLM thread.


 
Ancient Citizen said:
>>The online speculation that he didn't know there was a warrant out for his address is false.
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I don't see many (any?) online posts claiming that Daunte didn't know about his outstanding warrant.

Indeed, the basis for his attempting to flee police is exactly this - he had an outstanding warrant - and he knew it - and wished to somehow, irrationally, and at some risk to his own life, to avoid arrest.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
I don't see many (any?) online posts claiming that Daunte didn't know about his outstanding warrant.

Indeed, the basis for his attempting to flee police is exactly this - he had an outstanding warrant - and he knew it - and wished to somehow, irrationally, and at some risk to his own life, to avoid arrest.
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Maybe, I haven't checked, but it looks like this bloke wasn't exactly a model citizen, but a violent armed robber, amongst other things.
Again, if true, but printing lies in a newspaper is an offence, so I wouldn't bet against it.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Maybe, I haven't checked, but it looks like this bloke wasn't exactly a model citizen, but a violent armed robber, amongst other things.
Again, if true, but printing lies in a newspaper is an offence, so I wouldn't bet against it.
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Daunte might have been a violent criminal. That's not the point though.

The first point is that he was pulled over in the first place- was this racial profiling? It seems to me that it might well have been.

The second point - why was he killed? Was it intentional, or an accident. If an accident, was training at fault to the extent that training did not meet national norms? Or might national norms be insufficient?

The third point - was the female officer racially biased?
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Other talking points obviously apply.
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On the points above:
1) It seems likely to me that Daunte was pulled over on pretext because he was black;
2) It seems to me that Daunte's killing was an accident, not mitigated by current recommended training practices; such practices, IMO, need to be revised to prevent this sort of event;
3) No evidence has been presented - that I've seen - that the involved officer was racially biased.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Maybe, I haven't checked, but it looks like this bloke wasn't exactly a model citizen, but a violent armed robber, amongst other things.
Again, if true, but printing lies in a newspaper is an offence, so I wouldn't bet against it.
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Even if true that he was a suspected criminal, this still isn't legitimate grounds for being summarily shot...

I understand it's likely a mistake. But the detainees possible past wouldn't change the charge coming to the officer.
 
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