David Silva - 2016/17 performances

[gordondaviesmoustache]

2) Munich (a) 2013/14
3) Blackburn (a) 2010/11
4) Munich (h) 2011/12
5) Blackpool (a) 2010/11
6) Wigan (h) 2010/11
7) Bolton (a) 2011/12
8) QPR (a) 2011/12
9) Arsenal (h) 2011/12
10) Spurs (h) 2012/13

Yeah, but apart from that...

 

[RandomJ]

Yeah, but apart from that...

The aqueduct?

 

[simon23]

Born in the mid eighties so they'll all be post takeover.

1) Kompany - leader of the most successful City side in history.
2) Aguero - best striker in the PL era, possibly world no. 1.
3) Silva - a joy to watch, a role model and the architect of some of our greatest performances.
4) Zabaleta - an absolute warrior, plays with the passion of a fan and in his prime was up with the world's best in his position.
5) Tevez - signing this lad was a real turning point for the club and his performances and goals helped to change the clubs and fans mentality to a winning one.

Yaya misses out because of his actions off the pitch, Dinho was a difficult omission as were GazBaz and Joe. KDB hasn't been here long enough, nor have Gundogan and Sterling but I think all 3 could break into that top 5 before they're done.

Special mentions to Uwe, Kinky, Dunnie, Weaver, Kennedy, Berkovic, Benarbia, Dickov and the Goat pre takeover loved them all but they're not in the league of any of the above - if they were they wouldn't have been playing for us at the time.

Bernarbia was superb...just a pity we got him when we did at the end of his career.....

The goat goes without saying

Dihno is going to be considered up there by the time he finishes and if Gudongan stays long enough then i think he could be as well

Dunnie was a legend but I think its for other reasons rather than his ability

Kinky - undoubted quality BUT went missing an awful lot....probably he came to us at the wrong time (for him and/or for us)

Uwe was fantastic

I can go back before then to the days of Big Joe C. Tommy Caton, Derek Parlane, Neil Mcnab, Paul Simpson and the rest of the young guys that played together (Hinchcliffe, white lake brightwell)....loads more...all have a place in our history deservedly but on a footballing level they aint even close to some of todays players so I can differentiate between nostalgia and footballing ability which is what I am on about with the argument between that and legends...I don't think you have to have had great footballing ability to be seen as a legend.......so when we are discussing silva i think the argument that people are having here firstly needs to be defined

Yaya on ability alone deserves to be there at or near the top.

I wonder on a PURELY football basis how some of the romantics compare him to Bell...(purely on footballing terms). Ive seen enough videos of bell to know what a superb athlete he was and what a football brain he had but Im not sure if you stuck the same players on the same pitch at their heights that someone like bell would cope with the pure physical prowess of Yaya.....the development in training methods, diet etc have seen the just the pure power and speed of footballers grow to such levels that players of the 60's wouldn't cope on the same pitch I don't think. This is not to deny the players of the 60's/70's levels of ability. (Then again if you look at the equipment that those players were using especially the balls and boots then maybe there is a counter argument as well)

Silva matches anyone for intelligence on a pitch I've ever seen in a city shirt

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The aqueduct?

Splitter!

 

[simon23]

The aqueduct?

hahahaha

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

I was at many of those and read the match reports to be sure:
2) That's a fair shout but I'll remember Milner as the player who best fitted my requirement as the guy who took the game by the scruff of the neck that night.
3) We fucking stuffed them that day from the first whistle to the last so that doesn't meet my criteria.
4) We played their reserves and I don't really recall us being in trouble.
5) He was good that day but again it doesn't meet my criteria for really taking a team that was struggling by the scruff of the neck.
6) He scored a goal that rolled through Al Habsi's legs but that wasn't a game we were really ever in trouble.
7) He scored the first but we were 2-0 and 3-1 up in that game
8) That game was a battle but I wouldn't agree that Silva was the difference.
9) Half a point for that. He scored the only goal but Hart had a stormer that day and it was a tight game generally.
10) I'd say Mancini had more to do with us winning that game when he changed things and brought on Maicon, using him and Kolarov for additional width. He assisted the winning goal but he couldn't be described as the difference between the two sides in that game.

So maybe two half-points out of 9 possible. And look at the dates of those games.

Mate you need to get a grip. Maybe you liked Jamie pollock because he was passionate.....

Silva World Cup winner, UEFA cup twice. Premier league twice.

100 caps for Spain. Generally regarded as a great bloke and one day I hope he manages our great club. I have no idea why you would argue against the great man. It actually sickens me.

 

[Gundogan's Moustache]

People comparing the amount of games Toure's taken by the scruff of the neck compared to Silva's have gone blind in his absense. How many times have we seen Yaya have one of his can't be arsed games and all begged for him to be taken off

 

[simon23]

People comparing the amount of games Toure's taken by the scruff of the neck compared to Silva's have gone blind in his absense. How many times have we seen Yaya have one of his can't be arsed games and all begged for him to be taken off

very good point

 

[casserole of nonsense]

If not Silva, then who?

 

[simon23]

If not Silva, then who?

thats the point though...i don't think its possible to say who for a number of reasons....what people want tot see out of a football differs greatly. I for one wouldn't have ronaldo or costa for instance in any city team..they just aint the type of players I like for various reasons. So these personal reasons alone make it impossible to say who is the best.

Then there is the nostalgia/romanticism argument that means some people are unable to even start to think that some of the modern crop of players are better than the likes of Bell etc. There are also very pratcial reasons why comparison are unfair/very difficult to make like the development of training methods, styles of play, fitness levels, equipment changes (along with eh state of the pitches) and purely human development. (Look at the increase in the 100m's records since the early 60's) to the phenomenon that is Usain Bolt at present - can you every imagine someone running faster than him...not at present but in the next 50 years with a bit more development on diet,training and a freak bit of evolution in someone then it will probably happen...within a few hundred years humans themselves will start to look different. there are some theories non this that we may become (possibly over a longer period of time) a human species split into two main groups.....clearly defined by their physicality (and I'm not talking about skin colour). I wonder if in 200 years Bell et al will still be considered the greatest players?