David Silva - 2016/17 performances

[malg]

If not Silva, then who?

I don't know if it's a problem caused by social media and shite journalism. Everything seems to have to be graded against the past.

1. Is that the best team every in the league?
2. Is he the best forward we've ever seen?
3. Is that the greatest goal ever?
4. Is that the biggest upset ever?

Most of it will be predicated on TV coverage. I blame those dull fucking Channel 4 programmes - 100 greatest albums, 100 greatest adverts, 100 greatest sitcoms, 100 greatest Ant and Dec quotes......

However, we all join in with it so we're to blame.

 

[casserole of nonsense]

thats the point though...i don't think its possible to say who for a number of reasons....what people want tot see out of a football differs greatly. I for one wouldn't have ronaldo or costa for instance in any city team..they just aint the type of players I like for various reasons. So these personal reasons alone make it impossible to say who is the best.

Then there is the nostalgia/romanticism argument that means some people are unable to even start to think that some of the modern crop of players are better than the likes of Bell etc. There are also very pratcial reasons why comparison are unfair/very difficult to make like the development of training methods, styles of play, fitness levels, equipment changes (along with eh state of the pitches) and purely human development. (Look at the increase in the 100m's records since the early 60's) to the phenomenon that is Usain Bolt at present - can you every imagine someone running faster than him...not at present but in the next 50 years with a bit more development on diet,training and a freak bit of evolution in someone then it will probably happen...within a few hundred years humans themselves will start to look different. there are some theories non this that we may become (possibly over a longer period of time) a human species split into two main groups.....clearly defined by their physicality (and I'm not talking about skin colour). I wonder if in 200 years Bell et al will still be considered the greatest players?

It was a rhetorical question. You have some interesting thoughts on human evolution though.

I once thought I'd never see anyone run faster than Ben Johnson.

 

[casserole of nonsense]

I don't know if it's a problem caused by social media and shite journalism. Everything seems to have to be graded against the past.

1. Is that the best team every in the league?
2. Is he the best forward we've ever seen?
3. Is that the greatest goal ever?
4. Is that the biggest upset ever?

Most of it will be predicated on TV coverage. I blame those dull fucking Channel 4 programmes - 100 greatest albums, 100 greatest adverts, 100 greatest sitcoms, 100 greatest Ant and Dec quotes......

However, we all join in with it so we're to blame.

I agree. Let's enjoy the moment, watching David Silva ain't too shabby.

 

[malg]

I agree. Let's enjoy the moment, watching David Silva ain't too shabby.

Bang on. Even if you don't think he's the best ever city player, I'm sure everyone would agree that we're lucky to have they guy, and he can be an absolute joy to watch - makes it look easy.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Bang on. Even if you don't think he's the best ever city player, I'm sure everyone would agree that we're lucky to have they guy, and he can be an absolute joy to watch - makes it look easy.

Even I can agree that.

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

Looking at Silva's performance from purely a stats perspective:


Some stats background waffle
One of the most useful stats for measuring success at creating chances is based on “the number of key passes per 90 mins played”. A key pass being one that directly leads to a chance/attempt at goal. Over the course of a season any player with3+ "key passes per 90 mins played” is prolific at creating chances and only a handful of players manage it each year - In England the 5 year average is 4.6 players per season, Italy 3 players per season, Germany 2.8 players per season and just 2.6 players per season in Spain.

Last 5 seasons - best in Europe
Silva’s output for creating assists and chances in absolute terms and “key passes per 90 minutes played” is phenomenal. He has managed “3+ KP p90m” for each of the last 5 seasons and he is already on target for it again this season.

No one, Ozil aside, gets anywhere near the numbers and that level of consistency year after year – not just in the PL but in the other big European leagues as well. Simply, Silva and Ozil have been the long-term best in Europe by a country mile. KDB is following on their tails.


Defensive 16/17
No doubt this will be a big surprise to many but:

• overall his defensive numbers are 2nd only to Fernandinho based on the 9 City forwards/midfielders who have played more than 250 mins.
• his numbers are also better or compare favourably with the players from Liverpool and Spurs who are lauded as pressing specialists.
• not only is his Passes Blocked stat (a great indicator of quality pressing) the best at City, it is joint best in the entire league with Kante, Gueye and Coutinho. Not bad for a player with a suspect work rate :)

Creative 16/17
Silva and KDB both have 31 Key Passes each. Both are miles ahead of any other City player and only Payet is ahead of them in the league. (KDB does lead Silva 6-2 with assists )

In the Champions League group stages to date Silva leads the way with 12 key passes from his 3 games. Only 2 players have more – Stindl and Dani Alves – but they have played an extra game. On a “key passes per 90 mins played” basis, Silva is the top player in the CL group stages for creating chances so far.

Seems to me it all makes a mockery of those who think he is losing it. Not yet anyway. And as for the goals I'm sure Pep would like him to score more but I'd bet big that overall he is delighted with the way Silva has adapted.

 

[vintiz]

I love him so much!!

 

[simon23]

Looking at Silva's performance from purely a stats perspective:


Some stats background waffle
One of the most useful stats for measuring success at creating chances is based on “the number of key passes per 90 mins played”. A key pass being one that directly leads to a chance/attempt at goal. Over the course of a season any player with3+ "key passes per 90 mins played” is prolific at creating chances and only a handful of players manage it each year - In England the 5 year average is 4.6 players per season, Italy 3 players per season, Germany 2.8 players per season and just 2.6 players per season in Spain.

Last 5 seasons - best in Europe
Silva’s output for creating assists and chances in absolute terms and “key passes per 90 minutes played” is phenomenal. He has managed “3+ KP p90m” for each of the last 5 seasons and he is already on target for it again this season.

No one, Ozil aside, gets anywhere near the numbers and that level of consistency year after year – not just in the PL but in the other big European leagues as well. Simply, Silva and Ozil have been the long-term best in Europe by a country mile. KDB is following on their tails.


Defensive 16/17
No doubt this will be a big surprise to many but:

• overall his defensive numbers are 2nd only to Fernandinho based on the 9 City forwards/midfielders who have played more than 250 mins.
• his numbers are also better or compare favourably with the players from Liverpool and Spurs who are lauded as pressing specialists.
• not only is his Passes Blocked stat (a great indicator of quality pressing) the best at City, it is joint best in the entire league with Kante, Gueye and Coutinho. Not bad for a player with a suspect work rate :)

Creative 16/17
Silva and KDB both have 31 Key Passes each. Both are miles ahead of any other City player and only Payet is ahead of them in the league. (KDB does lead Silva 6-2 with assists )

In the Champions League group stages to date Silva leads the way with 12 key passes from his 3 games. Only 2 players have more – Stindl and Dani Alves – but they have played an extra game. On a “key passes per 90 mins played” basis, Silva is the top player in the CL group stages for creating chances so far.

Seems to me it all makes a mockery of those who think he is losing it. Not yet anyway. And as for the goals I'm sure Pep would like him to score more but I'd bet big that overall he is delighted with the way Silva has adapted.

Thanks for that.

I don't go for stats usually but they are interesting

But like i said what they don't show is the pass before the assist.....he has an awful lot of those as well and its usually the more difficult pass as well..I would be very interested to see f most of the assists by people like Nolito Sterling navas etc come from a previous pass by silva......

 

[casserole of nonsense]

Defensive 16/17
No doubt this will be a big surprise to many

My MOTM in the win against Barcelona, for just this reason. He made bitches of their midfield in that second half.

 

[Pete Campbell]

Looking at Silva's performance from purely a stats perspective:


Some stats background waffle
One of the most useful stats for measuring success at creating chances is based on “the number of key passes per 90 mins played”. A key pass being one that directly leads to a chance/attempt at goal. Over the course of a season any player with3+ "key passes per 90 mins played” is prolific at creating chances and only a handful of players manage it each year - In England the 5 year average is 4.6 players per season, Italy 3 players per season, Germany 2.8 players per season and just 2.6 players per season in Spain.

Last 5 seasons - best in Europe
Silva’s output for creating assists and chances in absolute terms and “key passes per 90 minutes played” is phenomenal. He has managed “3+ KP p90m” for each of the last 5 seasons and he is already on target for it again this season.

No one, Ozil aside, gets anywhere near the numbers and that level of consistency year after year – not just in the PL but in the other big European leagues as well. Simply, Silva and Ozil have been the long-term best in Europe by a country mile. KDB is following on their tails.


Defensive 16/17
No doubt this will be a big surprise to many but:

• overall his defensive numbers are 2nd only to Fernandinho based on the 9 City forwards/midfielders who have played more than 250 mins.
• his numbers are also better or compare favourably with the players from Liverpool and Spurs who are lauded as pressing specialists.
• not only is his Passes Blocked stat (a great indicator of quality pressing) the best at City, it is joint best in the entire league with Kante, Gueye and Coutinho. Not bad for a player with a suspect work rate :)

Creative 16/17
Silva and KDB both have 31 Key Passes each. Both are miles ahead of any other City player and only Payet is ahead of them in the league. (KDB does lead Silva 6-2 with assists )

In the Champions League group stages to date Silva leads the way with 12 key passes from his 3 games. Only 2 players have more – Stindl and Dani Alves – but they have played an extra game. On a “key passes per 90 mins played” basis, Silva is the top player in the CL group stages for creating chances so far.

Seems to me it all makes a mockery of those who think he is losing it. Not yet anyway. And as for the goals I'm sure Pep would like him to score more but I'd bet big that overall he is delighted with the way Silva has adapted.

Great work this. I can understand some people going with Kun or Yaya over Silva, but for me its Silva for all of the tangible and intangibles he has brought us over the last 5 years.