De Bruyne?

Ducado said:
Not got a clue perhaps it's down to a lack of life experience by the way I am quite confident that this is done and dusted and he will be here by next week I would have rather it would have been done yesterday because I knew we would have a weekend of flapping
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I think you're right. Most of tbe flappers are the youngsters, I would say. I'm just sitting back and enjoying the ride. What will be will be.
 
Neville Kneville said:
The 'impact' is that Zuculini has DeBruyne's place in the squad. He has to go, in order to...oh fuck it.

Read the thread & see why Zuculini was ever mentioned at all in this thread, & you'll find it was because i mentioned him, because i think the fact we are moving him on, is because DeBruyne is about to sign.

just my opinion.

Then people are cominig on arguing the merits of Zuculini. I'm not I think it's good news he's going, because i think his squad place is being made available for DeBruyne.

That's it.
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I understand your point ,but effectively we can have as many foreigners as we want but can only register 17 ,so it makes sense to move on the worst player in the squad who at present is zuculini or why maybe Fernando has disappeared off the face of the earth or why city may be up to letting MD go a year early
 
cleavers said:
No idea, nor that they think that because a player has a number, we need to move one out to bring one in. This was proved last season when we brought Bony in, and left Jovetic out of the CL squad. We can sign de Bruyne, and keep Zuculini if we wish, but Zuculini just won't see much football, just the Capital One Cup I guess, better he goes elsewhere and play, and try an establish himself as a first team regular, and show something that might mark him out as having a future at City.

I know you brought him up, but he doesn't have de Bruyne's place at all. He currently has a place, the second de Bruyne signs he doesn't, regardless of whether we sell or loan him out, see Jovetic last January.
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Exactly. Although I don't think that Zuculini would play even if De Bruyne doesn't sign. That's the real reason he's moving on and nothing to do with squad places.

He's bang average (at this stage) and probably on a level with the likes of Evans, Fofana, etc.

Same as Boyata last year.
 
cleavers said:
No idea, nor that they think that because a player has a number, we need to move one out to bring one in. This was proved last season when we brought Bony in, and left Jovetic out of the CL squad. We can sign de Bruyne, and keep Zuculini if we wish, but Zuculini just won't see much football, just the Capital One Cup I guess, better he goes elsewhere and play, and try an establish himself as a first team regular, and show something that might mark him out as having a future at City.

I know you brought him up, but he doesn't have de Bruyne's place at all. He currently has a place, the second de Bruyne signs he doesn't regardless of whether we sell or loan him out, see Jovetic last January.
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Right, you are completely wrong on this. It was a Champions League place Jovetic lost, because we had a place less due to sanctions, not a job, he was still available for the Premier League.

If Zuculini was still at the club & we signed DeBruyne, Zuculini would be effctively a prisoner at City, unable to play professional football, at the age of 22.

There is not a single chance in Hell, that City would allow that to happen. It would be morally wrong & legally wrong.

I think City have been talking to clubs about Zuculini, & are now willing to release him, because they think DeBruyne is coming.

i may be wrong, they may have released Zuculini anyway, but I'm not wrong about the fact that a player has to leave in order for DeBruyne to come in. That is a fact.
 
Claytop said:
Sorry Ric but I struggle to believe we have agreed a fee but are happy to wait to see what bayern can offer?! We've been apparently chasing him for months and yet are sitting waiting to see if Bayern fancy him over the weekend even though it seems they've done little work on it.

Might be too simplistic but if we've agreed terms with De Bruyne and a fee with Wolfsburg then surely that's it done.
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I was just speculating as to why Wolfsburg were delaying for a few days despite verbally accepting our offer.

Could just as easily be them wanting to get a replacement lined up before anything is announced.

Either way, we have to patiently bide our time and work to their timescales. If we threatened to walk away from the deal they would probably be fine with that, and I doubt we're willing to do that.

I don't think it matters greatly to City when the deal is concluded, as long as it gets done.
 
mrtwiceaseason said:
I understand your point ,but effectively we can have as many foreigners as we want but can only register 17 ,so it makes sense to move on the worst player in the squad who at present is zuculini or why maybe Fernando has disappeared off the face of the earth or why city may be up to letting MD go a year early
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No, we can't have players at the club & not able to play football, that would be an absolute disgrace.

Someone has to leave in order for DeBruyne to sign & as you rightly point out, that would naturally appear to be Zuculini.

I think it's a good sign, that Zuculini is being moved on.
 
Ric said:
You can't discount Bayern and, even though some people scoffed at their supposed interest, it is real. That's presumably why even though Wolfsburg have verbally accepted our offer, they're delaying over the weekend to see what Bayern's offer is.

Just think we're too far down the line with this to let it slip though. I doubt Bayern can match our offer, to either De Bruyne or Wolfsburg, and the player is said to favour a move to Manchester.
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Cheers Ric, it's this that bothers me, it's almost like there's a requirement to listen to Bayern.
 
Ric said:
I was just speculating as to why Wolfsburg were delaying for a few days despite verbally accepting our offer.

Could just as easily be them wanting to get a replacement lined up before anything is announced.

Either way, we have to patiently bide our time and work to their timescales. If we threatened to walk away from the deal they would probably be fine with that, and I doubt we're willing to do that.

I don't think it matters greatly to City when the deal is concluded, as long as it gets done.
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I imagine City feel they can scrape a side together for the Watford game.
 
I think I'm the only one who doesn't really even want De Bruyne *at any price*.

It's not knee-jerk from me, if you look through my posts about him, I was always a bit sceptical about KdB, and I'm just unsure whether we need another "No. 10" in the first eleven as we've got Silva, too. Currently, with Sterling drifting inside and Navas just staying at the sideline makes it a great balance and gives Silva lot of options to create something. With KdB taking Navas' place, I don't know, it of course might work, but I see our attacking mid options absolutely fascinating just as it stands now.

Also, De Bruyne flourishes in a counter-attacking setup, he really does, which is great, but I'm just wondering that he's worth all the fuss after 1 world-class season, when he might (or might not) suffer in a possession-based team.

He's not exactly Silva when it comes to retain and pass the ball in tight spaces.
 
Ducado said:
I suspect you are wrong and you and many others have just took the bait Bild put out for you, the paper was reporting it was all agreed for most of yesterday
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No, I was referring more to KDB being in the Wolfsburg team to play this weekend, that's the only real evidence that the deal is not yet signed.
 
Hungarian blue said:
I think I'm the only one who doesn't really even want De Bruyne *at any price*.

It's not knee-jerk from me, if you look through my posts about him, I was always a bit sceptical about KdB, and I'm just unsure whether we need another "No. 10" in the first eleven as we've got Silva, too. Currently, with Sterling drifting inside and Navas just staying at the sideline makes it a great balance and gives Silva lot of options to create something. With KdB taking Navas' place, I don't know, it of course might work, but I see our attacking mid options absolutely fascinating just as it stands now.

Also, De Bruyne flourishes in a counter-attacking setup, he really does, which is great, but I'm just wondering that he's worth all the fuss after 1 world-class season, when he might (or might not) suffer in a possession-based team.

He's not exactly Silva when it comes to retain and pass the ball in tight spaces.
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He is much better than Navas. Navas never scores a goal, need better than that at the highest level.
 
Hungarian blue said:
I think I'm the only one who doesn't really even want De Bruyne *at any price*.

It's not knee-jerk from me, if you look through my posts about him, I was always a bit sceptical about KdB, and I'm just unsure whether we need another "No. 10" in the first eleven as we've got Silva, too. Currently, with Sterling drifting inside and Navas just staying at the sideline makes it a great balance and gives Silva lot of options to create something. With KdB taking Navas' place, I don't know, it of course might work, but I see our attacking mid options absolutely fascinating just as it stands now.

Also, De Bruyne flourishes in a counter-attacking setup, he really does, which is great, but I'm just wondering that he's worth all the fuss after 1 world-class season, when he might (or might not) suffer in a possession-based team.

He's not exactly Silva when it comes to retain and pass the ball in tight spaces.
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Tbh I felt exactly the same when I first saw links to us, I wondered how the fuck a player with his pass completion rate, would possibly fit in at City. But I've done a complete about turn on that & actually now think the opposite. Someone who does something different, is exactly what we need. He 'has a go' . Sometimes, as a team, we don't.

Re counter attacking, I think we will do a lot more of that this season, Chelsea being an example. But against the bus parkers in a possession game, DeBruyne may be the key which unlocks it.

This is a big one for City imo. Bigger than Pogba. We will be great without him, but with him, we could be something unstoppable.
 
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