De Jong (Merged)

[squirtyflower]

Re: De Jong last night..

Boo boys? I doubt anyone on here has ever boo'd de Jong. Merely talking about his role in the team and whether he can fit in with our new look

Don't our three results (two with a less than 100% De Jong) with him in the team answer that?

4-1
5-2
3-0

It's as easy as push Yaya forward and hold De Jong back (as in the Villarreal game), dilemma solved.

No they don't, those 3 results prove very little. 3 games is not enough to judge, especially when one was an early round carling cup game and the other against villareal reserves. de Jong not offering enough and halting our own attacks in those games isn't gonna make much difference in a team like ours as we'll probably win anyway

It might be easy to push Yaya forward but that's only because Yaya is such a fantastic player that when moved forward he still gives us both a potent attacking threat and excellent defensive work. de jong only offers defensive qualities and has been detrimental to our attacking play in the games he's played. It might not be a problem as it might just be down to match fitness but otherwise he's going to have to raise his game and give us more cos Yaya, Barry and Milner offer so much more than him in the middle (and Hargreaves when fit)

between the middle and the end of last season he seemed to have improved this part of his game considerably
many put it down to mancini's superb coaching
however since his return he's slipped back into sideways and backwards passing mode
there were quite a few opportunities on wednesday night to play a ball forward to one of our moving midfield players inbetween their lines but he chose the safer option each time
it could be because of the mistake he made in the first game, it could be a lack of form at the moment or it could be a lack of complete match fitness
all i know is that he seems about 75% of the player he was last year which makes him a squad player
Yaya and Barry both have the knack to see the forward through ball in midfield

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Re: De Jong last night..

No they don't, those 3 results prove very little.

Perhaps three matches can't prove anything but they SUGGEST a lot, specifically that we'll score plenty with or without him in the team but the protection he gives us adds a lot.

I agree. Well, maybe when he's part of a central midfield 3 at least. He doesn't provide very good protection in a midfield 2 because he isn't mobile enough. Did you think he gave us good protection against wolves in the CC? I didn't, we were very open that game.

And how many times have we needed de Jongs protection so far this season? Once - Bayern Munich away.

We hold a player like Yaya back when he isn't in the team (which almost seems a waste of Yaya) but as against Villarreal that isn't required when De Jong is playing and Yaya can be as effective as many strikers, more than compensating for De Jong's apparent lack of attacking ability.

Yea but we can put Aguero in there who'll give us a huge attacking threat and Yaya can play in midfield instead of de Jong and give us what de Jong gives us and a lot more

 

[Kun Lover]

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Going to see the arctic monkeys instead of watching city....disgusting! You shouldnt be allowed on here!

 

[stimo]

Re: De Jong last night..

Going to see the arctic monkeys instead of watching city....disgusting! You shouldnt be allowed on here!

piss off it was a late birthday present!

 

[paulgmurphyhumphries]

Re: De Jong last night..

I give up, goodnight you clueless's.

 

[binitd]

Re: De Jong last night..

there will be times when we just have to shut at the back.the hard times .days/matches where the league is won.by just winning 1 0 then de jong will come in use.he might be rested for now. but he is one of the important player for us.in december ,may be this month when fatigue comes into play,when so many matche s will be played.he will be there.

 

[Lomas has a lob on]

Re: De Jong last night..

It thought De-Jong got better and better as the game went on, at the beginning there were a few loose passes etc, but towards the end it was like he had never been away. De-Jong is a fantastic player and is a crucial part of our squad, but its a huge compliment to the rest of the players that he hasn't just walked back in the side. Im sure De-Jong will have an important role to play this season, especially with Toure off to the african nations in January. But last season it seemed to me that De-Jong had to play for us to get results, like Tevez, but its refreshing too see every player have to fight to get into the side.

 

[LoveCity]

Re: De Jong last night..

So who was breaking up play today in the absence of Needless Nigel?

No wonder we have so many fans of the Invisible Man, he was our defensive midfielder today while QPR laughed at the non-challenges approaching our goal.

 

[mike channon´s windmill]

Re: De Jong last night..

So who was breaking up play today in the absence of Needless Nigel?

No wonder we have so many fans of the Invisible Man, he was our defensive midfielder today while QPR laughed at the non-challenges approaching our goal.

Defo could have done with the little Rotweiler tonight

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Re: De Jong last night..

So who was breaking up play today in the absence of Needless Nigel?

No wonder we have so many fans of the Invisible Man, he was our defensive midfielder today while QPR laughed at the non-challenges approaching our goal.

And yet Mancini decided he didnt need to play him and didnt

What was he doing resting him??

Its lucky you know more than Bobby maybe you should pop roung the Eithad and give your CV in