De Jong vs Chelsea - COMS

DTeacher said:
Sky Blue said:
Only because you agree with him. DD rated Andy Hill on another thread, each to their own I guess.


I wonder how they would rate Claude Makalele?
As a defensive midfielder, probably one of the best. As a midfielder though, he was merely good.

If you have a system that requires a destructive anchorman then it's fine. But if you have a team that struggles to keep possession, then you need midfielders who can do more than one thing.

Real Madrid and Chelsea both used Makelele really well because their ball retention was really good and the majority of the team were capable of joining in with the attack, so an anchorman was required to fill in and mop up on the rare occasions the ball was lost.

However, in a team who constantly loses the midfield battle (us, away from home), an anchorman is sometimes detrimental. We'd benefit from a more complete midfielder, and 1,000 over-head kick clearances from 'Nige' won't change my mind.

If De Jong is a world class defensive midfielder, then Richard Dunne is a world class combative defender.
 
Georgian Maestro said:
AntMcfc said:
Pure imbecile, utter gorm. Disgusting comment. DJ is one of the best readers of the game in the world, you should be fucking embarrassed.

Cheers for the insults. I just think for someone who's only role in the team is to sit in front of the back 4 the amount of times he get's caught out chasing shadows is fucking embarrassing

We must watch different games you and i ,ah well
 
When you get a thread theres always one main disagree-er who carries on posting throughout, they normally have the last post to prove they are right to :)
I think de jong is an animal and is awesome at the job he does
 
DD said:
Because he is the most over rated player on our books that's why.

Great at tackling in home games but disappears up his own backside when we are away from home - when a player like him should be proving his worth.

His pondering, laboured actions once he has won it, stifle our natural attacking play and his inability to move the ball quickly (or forward) telegraphs the situation to the opposition and allows them all to slot nicely back into their positions to nullify any threat.

Apart from that, he snarls a lot, shakes his fist and impresses kids who used to shout "scrap, scrap" when they saw that tell-tale huddle at the far end of the playground.

Oh and, yes, your video is nice but Samaras looked even more impressive on the You Tube compilation his No.1 fan put together before he signed for us.

rag or chemically unbalanced
 
ello_jo said:
When you get a thread theres always one main disagree-er who carries on posting throughout, they normally have the last post to prove they are right to :)
I think de jong is an animal and is awesome at the job he does
Agreed,he wins the ball then gives it to other players that then take it forward BUT if those other 2 players are both defensive players or have been told to be defensive then he's fucked & so are we until it is changed.
 
Hes only half a player in my book, great defensive but lacks anything constructive when we're on the ball.

I think he'd do well if we had 2 attacking minded midfielders with him.

A.Johnson--Ireland--De Jong--M.Johnson--Bellamy

I'd like to see that in the future.
 
AntMcfc said:
I made this the other day, just bored and wanted to make a comp of the legend himself. How anybody can deny this man is a world class DM is beyond me...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lYRNEfFDw0[/youtube]

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lYRNEfFDw0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lYRNEfFDw0</a>

if you are going to Deem him world class from a video like that, than you mate are a dumbass. De Jong is good Nothing Special. take off the blue tinted specs
 
One of the best DMs we've ever had and people still find something to bitch about. Some won't be happy until we have a team full of galacticos, the best in the world in every position. Go and f*cking support Madrid.
 
LoveCity said:
One of the best DMs we've ever had and people still find something to bitch about. Some won't be happy until we have a team full of galacticos, the best in the world in every position. Go and f*cking support Madrid.

i like De Jong , i just dont think he is a god. i think hes a good DM. but not a god
 
KingofDraw said:
if you are going to Deem him world class from a video like that, than you mate are a dumbass. De Jong is good Nothing Special. take off the blue tinted specs

A compelling arguement, not a single hole in it...

He didn't say, heres proof of NDJ greatness, he just made the vid because he was bored. On top of that he gave his opinion that he was class and NDJ's performance versus Chelsea was fantastic and roudly praised on here at the time.
 
GStar said:
KingofDraw said:
if you are going to Deem him world class from a video like that, than you mate are a dumbass. De Jong is good Nothing Special. take off the blue tinted specs

A compelling arguement, not a single hole in it...

He didn't say, heres proof of NDJ greatness, he just made the vid because he was bored. On top of that he gave his opinion that he was class and NDJ's performance versus Chelsea was fantastic and roudly praised on here at the time.

he said he was world class, and if this video is one of his best performances, i dont see the world class performance.<br /><br />-- Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:41 pm --<br /><br />
lee-mcfc said:
he isnt ´world class` like the OP said but he is very good when playing at his best

thats how i see it..i just cant put him world class...love his enthusiasm and desire and he is good. and he can still improve which i hope he does
 
He'd be better used if we had a player alongside him who was dynamic and had an eye for a defence splitting pass, ie not slow-mo Barry.

He's an excellent defender no doubt. He offers little else other than defending though. With the right players alongside/ahead of him he could play a big role in a very good team. But when he is played with another defender Zabaleta next to him and Barry also next to him we are wasting our time. If we are insisting on playing Barry and Zabaleta in midfield (while Ireland sits twiddling his thumbs for fucks sake) then there really is no need for him.
 
i watched a video of when he was at ajax while i was on youtube then and he can finish as well
 
Can those who say he is not a world class player define exactly what a defensive midfielder's duties are (because I can never recall Makelele pinging through balls left right and centre). What the fook has the guy gotta do bag hat-trick every game??

De Jong is well and truly world class in my book. Not the best in his position but certainly within the top 5 or 6 (and can there only be 2 world class players in this position or something)?

If he isn't world class please tell me the defensive midfielders that are because my football education must be seriously flawed.

Nice one for all those who have given him a kicking on this thread as well, top boys, top fans, I'm so glad I sit next to you every week.
 
Wish people wouldn,t keep coming up with the excuses that Nige is only a negative player !!
`scuse me,but what was he bought for !!!!!!!!!!
Yes a tough tackling midfielder !!!!!!!!
Name the last City Player in this position that was as hard as nails.
For years we,ve been bleating how "lightweight" our midfielders have been.
Now we get a great international Player and some of you twats are still NOT happy !!
Glad hes with us and NOT playing for the opposition !!
Very unfair and unjustified comments from some of you morons.
Show `em Nige !!
 
mcfc_nick said:
i watched a video of when he was at ajax while i was on youtube then and he can finish as well

Is this the one?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGQRjLwj-Xk&feature=related[/youtube]

He was used as a box-to-box midfielder at Ajax.
 
Unknown_Genius said:
mcfc_nick said:
i watched a video of when he was at ajax while i was on youtube then and he can finish as well

Is this the one?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGQRjLwj-Xk&feature=related[/youtube]

He was used as a box-to-box midfielder at Ajax.

ALL YOU TWATS WHO KEEP THROWING NEGATIVES ABOUT NIGE SHOULD BE MADE TO WATCH THIS !!!!
SUPERB PLAYER !! ITS NOT HIS FAULT HE PLAYS IN A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MIDFIELD ROLE FOR THE BLUES.
BUT ONE THINGS FOR SURE,HES GOT A FOOTBALLING BRAIN TO BE A MORE ATTACKING MINDED MIDFIELDER,IF HE GETS THE RIGHT TYPE OF FRONTMEN.
 
LOL @ Oakiecokie calling us lot twats and morons just because we'v said he is not WORLD class , get a grip.!!.... he is a very good player as iv said but not world class.
 
lee-mcfc said:
LOL @ Oakiecokie calling us lot twats and morons just because we'v said he is not WORLD class , get a grip.!!.... he is a very good player as iv said but not world class.

I too also never stated he was "world class"
But from some of these posts on here,some people DO NOT even regard him as a very good player !!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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