De Jong

[DD]

I like De Jong. At Ajax he played a different role as more of a box-to-box midfielder, he also played right-back a fair few times. For the Netherlands at Euro 2008, he got forwards alot and would test the keeper with a shot, in the match against Russia, in extra time he was the only Dutch player who could run, he had great energy and covered so much ground. De Jong can pass the ball well, I've yet to see a Dutch player who is a bad passer. I also remember one match in the WC qualifiers against Iceland, and he scored, with a header. Its the instructions he's given by Mancini, to protect the back 4 and break up play. He can get more forwards if he wants to, but the manager has assigned him a certain role, different from the one he plays for Holland, and previously at Ajax.

He never did any of that under Hughes either. Are we saying both managers are limiting his natural ability?

The trouble is with a lot of City fans is they see an average European international in a Blue shirt and lovingly trump him up to be world class.

If De Jong was at a really big club then he wouldn't be anywhere near the first team. He is a very average and very limited player, as described (in my opinion) rather well by those on this thread who can see beyond the highlights package of him.

 

[Bigga]

I like De Jong. At Ajax he played a different role as more of a box-to-box midfielder, he also played right-back a fair few times. For the Netherlands at Euro 2008, he got forwards alot and would test the keeper with a shot, in the match against Russia, in extra time he was the only Dutch player who could run, he had great energy and covered so much ground. De Jong can pass the ball well, I've yet to see a Dutch player who is a bad passer. I also remember one match in the WC qualifiers against Iceland, and he scored, with a header. Its the instructions he's given by Mancini, to protect the back 4 and break up play. He can get more forwards if he wants to, but the manager has assigned him a certain role, different from the one he plays for Holland, and previously at Ajax.

What a goal! Something I've been trying suggest to these brilliant analysts on these pages and on others.

Let me kneel and buff your boot a la Robinho...

-- Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:47 am --

He's so sh*t, he's one of the first picks for Holland, as he was for Hamburg and Ajax before that, blah blah...

Of course, I must 'limited in intellect' because you say Barry is better! That's enough for most people! Don't think you've actually stated why Barry is better, yet.

*puts feet up*

This'll be good...

Covers more ground, makes more tackles, intercepts more passes, much more positive passing, more assist, more goals. to be honest barry's just about better than de jong at everything apart from bicylce kick clearences and unecessary slide tackles.

Don't need to answer this silly post as Unknown dismantled this already, however "u(n)necessary slide tackles"?? Every slide tackle is a halt to a potential attack. Barry wrestles his man to the floor inducing more free kicks than de Jong, at any rate!<br /><br />-- Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:50 am --<br /><br />

I like De Jong. At Ajax he played a different role as more of a box-to-box midfielder, he also played right-back a fair few times. For the Netherlands at Euro 2008, he got forwards alot and would test the keeper with a shot, in the match against Russia, in extra time he was the only Dutch player who could run, he had great energy and covered so much ground. De Jong can pass the ball well, I've yet to see a Dutch player who is a bad passer. I also remember one match in the WC qualifiers against Iceland, and he scored, with a header. Its the instructions he's given by Mancini, to protect the back 4 and break up play. He can get more forwards if he wants to, but the manager has assigned him a certain role, different from the one he plays for Holland, and previously at Ajax.

He never did any of that under Hughes either. Are we saying both managers are limiting his natural ability?

The trouble is with a lot of City fans is they see an average European international in a Blue shirt and lovingly trump him up to be world class.

If De Jong was at a really big club then he wouldn't be anywhere near the first team. He is a very average and very limited player, as described (in my opinion) rather well by those on this thread who can see beyond the highlights package of him.

Tell me, how else is "very average" in the 16M bracket?? Now if Hughes was prepared to pay that much and not wait, there MUST have been a reason... right??

(And don't give the Jo argument, he was not bought buy Hughes nor Sven.)

 

[Neil McNab]

All these arguements that he must be good because Hughes paid £16m and all these managers keep picking him is just pathetic.
If you're going to debate a players worth, discuss his attributes. because every crap player moved for a fee, every crap player gets picked by a manager and every crap player has his day, it doesn't mean they're not crap.
The one thing that will prove me right is that De Jong will become a bench warmer next season as Mancini replaces him with a taller, faster, more intelligent player, as he tried to in January!

 

[Bigga]

All these arguements that he must be good because Hughes paid £16m and all these managers keep picking him is just pathetic.
If you're going to debate a players worth, discuss his attributes. because every crap player moved for a fee, every crap player gets picked by a manager and every crap player has his day, it doesn't mean they're not crap.
The one thing that will prove me right is that De Jong will become a bench warmer next season as Mancini replaces him with a taller, faster, more intelligent player, as he tried to in January!

What tosh!

So, I suppose Hughes' pursuit of Yaya Touré meant he wanted to replace his own signing...????

PMSL!!

 

[blueplan]

Ajax
On 19 October 2002, de Jong made his debut for the Ajax first team. He quickly made an impact and became a favourite with the fans. A versatile right-footed player, he was preferred choice in both midfield and defence but later on in his career he was sitting on the reserves bench more often than being in the starting line-up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_de_Jong

Will 'City' replace 'Ajax' above in the near future?

Is it true he would have been available for much less if we have waited 'til summer of 2009?

 

[Neil McNab]

All these arguements that he must be good because Hughes paid £16m and all these managers keep picking him is just pathetic.
If you're going to debate a players worth, discuss his attributes. because every crap player moved for a fee, every crap player gets picked by a manager and every crap player has his day, it doesn't mean they're not crap.
The one thing that will prove me right is that De Jong will become a bench warmer next season as Mancini replaces him with a taller, faster, more intelligent player, as he tried to in January!

What tosh!

So, I suppose Hughes' pursuit of Yaya Touré meant he wanted to replace his own signing...????

PMSL!!

Yes!
Why else would he want to bring him to the club, De Jong would have become his cover...........duh!
De Jong passes the ball as though it's something he has never done before and must concentrate very hard for. Rather like a young girl trying a 3 point turn for the first time.
City can add more to the team replacing De Jong than replacing any other player in the team.....simples!

 

[the goats backside]

I am just glad we have so many excellent players

 

[Neil McNab]

I like De Jong. At Ajax he played a different role as more of a box-to-box midfielder, he also played right-back a fair few times. For the Netherlands at Euro 2008, he got forwards alot and would test the keeper with a shot, in the match against Russia, in extra time he was the only Dutch player who could run, he had great energy and covered so much ground. De Jong can pass the ball well, I've yet to see a Dutch player who is a bad passer. I also remember one match in the WC qualifiers against Iceland, and he scored, with a header. Its the instructions he's given by Mancini, to protect the back 4 and break up play. He can get more forwards if he wants to, but the manager has assigned him a certain role, different from the one he plays for Holland, and previously at Ajax.

He never did any of that under Hughes either. Are we saying both managers are limiting his natural ability?

The trouble is with a lot of City fans is they see an average European international in a Blue shirt and lovingly trump him up to be world class.

If De Jong was at a really big club then he wouldn't be anywhere near the first team. He is a very average and very limited player, as described (in my opinion) rather well by those on this thread who can see beyond the highlights package of him.

Watch his highlights from the Chelsea game (supposedly his finest hour) and he does nothing of any note at all. Can't wait to offload the ball, usually backwards, hey here's an idea, why not put a player in that role that can give us the bonus of pace, passing, movement and vision.......wow, how mad an idea is that!

 

[pee dubya]

I am just glad we have so many excellent players

Yeah, we've already exceded our greatest ever points total in the Premier League and people still feel the need to pursue monotonous vendettas against certain players. Strange.

 

[Lucas North]

I am just glad we have so many excellent players

Yeah, we've already exceded our greatest ever points total in the Premier League and people still feel the need to pursue monotonous vendettas against certain players. Strange.

Not really , with de-jong in the side its like playing with ten men.

We would be challenging for the title without him ,he's been a negative influence and a passenger all season .