De Rossi (again)

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ayrshire_blue said:
kun1 said:
I'll be clear, i don't like the idea of us signing de rossi. i'm not doubting he's a great player, but the idea of having two (yaya) 30 year old in the center of midfield and them getting old. in two years we will have to replace them both. and we will go backwards as we cant sign 2 big names in 1 transfer window and if we do it will take them some time to get along together. on top of that if he leaves roma (which i still doubt) he will demand big wages. i'd rather us go all out for benat (younger. exceptional footballer, and less money, as easy as that).
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This 100%. Exactly my feelings.
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This is the post I put in a thread on my views regarding Beñat.

I personally believe that our current midfield is quite good enough to win us domestic glory this season, but however, it is quite evident that our current midfield is a quite a far from competing with the best in Europe and actually dictating the play.

Many on here are talking about Beñat as a good replacement - who is in no doubt of being a good player - but in my opinion we need a player with experience who can come into the team and not only give everybody a boost, but be able to dictate to a team full of egos in the midfield area and almost be a captain in that area.

I just think we are in no position to be trying promising talents until we have actually won the European cup for the first time, when that happens, new players will know the standards the club expects of them.

We need a proven champion, a true leader, a second captain, a role model in our midfield to make us tick in Europe.

I just think that taking a player like Beñat out of Real Betis and putting him in a team full of egos and asking him to basically dictate what goes on in midfield is too much, especially for a club who is wanting to win its first European Cup.

It would be different at Madrid or Barcelona because they have won the Cup numerous times over, and the standards are already implanted at those clubs so any player going into their teams will know what is expected of them, at City we don't quite have that sort of authority about us yet.

We need a De Rossi, Alonso, Busquets etc.. who has been there and done it, who knows what is expected of them, and can dictate to the team around him without feeling the pressure of the egos around him.
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MihaiCity said:
If he was in London then he was there to speak with mancini about a City move....it's seems like Jan will be the month when mancini will see his wish:DDr at City....mancini and txiki will go isco and DDR in Jan...i'm sure
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^ please be true! :)
 
Ivan Carminati gave an interview in Italy the other day and while he didn't say we were going for De Rossi, he said City want to buy top players and De Rossi is a top player.
 
Saw this posted on other forum..
It´s not common knowledge but Sheikh Mansour got a lot of clout when it comes to Roma..
".Ferrari Chairman Luca Cordero di Montezemolo is set to become the vice chairman of UniCredit , Italy's biggest bank by assets said in a statement on Wednesday. Montezemolo already sits on Unicredit's board as a representative of Abu Dhabi investment vehicle Aabar, which is the bank's single biggest shareholder with a 6.5 percent stake.
UniCredit's vice chairman post was previously held by the head of Aabar, Khadem Al Qubaisi, who stepped down earlier this month. The bank's governance and nominations committee will propose Montezemolo's appointment to the board on Oct.18, UniCredit said. Mohamed Ali Al Fahim, head of the finance division at Abu Dhabi's investment company IPIC, will replace Al Qubaisi as a board member."

"Since the takeover in 2011, NEEP Roma Holding S.p.A. owned all shares Sensi previously hold. NEEP, itself a joint venture, is held by DiBenedetto AS Roma LLC (later renamed to AS Roma SPV, LLC) and Unicredit in 60-40 ratio"

Sheikh Mansour is the chairman of IPIC, IPIC owns Aabar, Aabar is the single biggest shareholder in Unicredit, Unicredit owns 40% of the AS Roma holding company.
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LoveCity said:
Ivan Carminati gave an interview in Italy the other day and while he didn't say we were going for De Rossi, he said City want to buy top players and De Rossi is a top player.
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Alright love city de rossi or benat /isco,willian or jovetic?
 
bluemcr said:
Alright love city de rossi or benat /isco,willian or jovetic?
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It's like being a kid in a sweet shop with those sort of choices. Jovetic won't be coming unless we sell a striker, he is more and more becoming a striker (used to play in the hole). De Rossi or Benat, Isco or Willian? I'd go for Isco I think, he'd be cheaper because of his buy-out and would fit in with our Spanish contingent. De Rossi is better than Benat but Benat is unique, younger, and cheaper so that's a harder choice I think. If we want the here and now then it has to be De Rossi, he is an immense player.
 
Cielo Azzurro said:
Saw this posted on other forum..
It´s not common knowledge but Sheikh Mansour got a lot of clout when it comes to Roma..
".Ferrari Chairman Luca Cordero di Montezemolo is set to become the vice chairman of UniCredit , Italy's biggest bank by assets said in a statement on Wednesday. Montezemolo already sits on Unicredit's board as a representative of Abu Dhabi investment vehicle Aabar, which is the bank's single biggest shareholder with a 6.5 percent stake.
UniCredit's vice chairman post was previously held by the head of Aabar, Khadem Al Qubaisi, who stepped down earlier this month. The bank's governance and nominations committee will propose Montezemolo's appointment to the board on Oct.18, UniCredit said. Mohamed Ali Al Fahim, head of the finance division at Abu Dhabi's investment company IPIC, will replace Al Qubaisi as a board member."

"Since the takeover in 2011, NEEP Roma Holding S.p.A. owned all shares Sensi previously hold. NEEP, itself a joint venture, is held by DiBenedetto AS Roma LLC (later renamed to AS Roma SPV, LLC) and Unicredit in 60-40 ratio"

Sheikh Mansour is the chairman of IPIC, IPIC owns Aabar, Aabar is the single biggest shareholder in Unicredit, Unicredit owns 40% of the AS Roma holding company.
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*strokes cat*
 
MCC said:
Cielo Azzurro said:
Saw this posted on other forum..
It´s not common knowledge but Sheikh Mansour got a lot of clout when it comes to Roma..
".Ferrari Chairman Luca Cordero di Montezemolo is set to become the vice chairman of UniCredit , Italy's biggest bank by assets said in a statement on Wednesday. Montezemolo already sits on Unicredit's board as a representative of Abu Dhabi investment vehicle Aabar, which is the bank's single biggest shareholder with a 6.5 percent stake.
UniCredit's vice chairman post was previously held by the head of Aabar, Khadem Al Qubaisi, who stepped down earlier this month. The bank's governance and nominations committee will propose Montezemolo's appointment to the board on Oct.18, UniCredit said. Mohamed Ali Al Fahim, head of the finance division at Abu Dhabi's investment company IPIC, will replace Al Qubaisi as a board member."

"Since the takeover in 2011, NEEP Roma Holding S.p.A. owned all shares Sensi previously hold. NEEP, itself a joint venture, is held by DiBenedetto AS Roma LLC (later renamed to AS Roma SPV, LLC) and Unicredit in 60-40 ratio"

Sheikh Mansour is the chairman of IPIC, IPIC owns Aabar, Aabar is the single biggest shareholder in Unicredit, Unicredit owns 40% of the AS Roma holding company.
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*strokes cat*
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LoveCity said:
bluemcr said:
Alright love city de rossi or benat /isco,willian or jovetic?
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It's like being a kid in a sweet shop with those sort of choices. Jovetic won't be coming unless we sell a striker, he is more and more becoming a striker (used to play in the hole). De Rossi or Benat, Isco or Willian? I'd go for Isco I think, he'd be cheaper because of his buy-out and would fit in with our Spanish contingent. De Rossi is better than Benat but Benat is unique, younger, and cheaper so that's a harder choice I think. If we want the here and now then it has to be De Rossi, he is an immense player.
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My thoughts also, but if we get de rossi i think someone goes in midfield gonna be some pissed off midfield players if he arrives. If we are to improve to the next level then i think mancini and co have got to be ruthless to make way for these sort of players to give us a new boost coz we look very stagnant at times. Think we are building a team for the champions league.
 
the winter transfer window is gonna be ripe with rumours regardless of whether we buy or sell anyone at all.. I'll say that much
 
cmdub said:
the winter transfer window is gonna be ripe with rumours regardless of whether we buy or sell anyone at all.. I'll say that much
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Let's hope so!
Thing is, IIRC didn't Mancini or one of our staff say a week or so back that we wouldn't be doing any business this January, or have I imagined it??
 
Let's pray to gos we stay well away from de Rossi. 30 in a few months and looking for one last big pay day. Add to that a cost of 20m fee. He is only Going to get worse at his age. Anyone who wants him over benat is a complete idiot.
 
I'd probably go with Benat. We have plenty of steel in the midfield, it's creativity we lack. Benat from what I have seen is a better passer. He makes a lot more sense financially.

Would be ecstatic to get either one in January
 
His age could be a factor..but I think he would be the player to get us over the hump that is CL, we have a good enough team to go far in it and he would be the x factor I think..his presence alone<br /><br />-- Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:21 pm --<br /><br />
LoveCity said:
bluemcr said:
Alright love city de rossi or benat /isco,willian or jovetic?
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It's like being a kid in a sweet shop with those sort of choices. Jovetic won't be coming unless we sell a striker, he is more and more becoming a striker (used to play in the hole). De Rossi or Benat, Isco or Willian? I'd go for Isco I think, he'd be cheaper because of his buy-out and would fit in with our Spanish contingent. De Rossi is better than Benat but Benat is unique, younger, and cheaper so that's a harder choice I think. If we want the here and now then it has to be De Rossi, he is an immense player.
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Agree with the last sentence mate
 
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