De Rossi (continued)

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Marvin said:
Alfredo Pedulla is quiet this morning


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Is that the same article ? It mentions de Jong
 
bobmcfc said:
Marvin said:
Alfredo Pedulla is quiet this morning


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Is that the same article ? It mentions de Jong

no it's new


The Rome might be able to resist, but Manchester City is going to go all the way for Daniele De Rossi. The idea is to formalize of a formal proposal that stagger the Giallorossi, arriving at the famous ceiling of 40 million. We will see. For this reason it has not taken any decision on De Jong: Inter is in pressure, there is a node engagement, but it is clear that since the contract expires in 2013, will arrive at a solution. And some say that De Jong could be brought to Rome in the mega offer for De Rossi ...
 
Forzacitizens said:
bobmcfc said:
Marvin said:
Alfredo Pedulla is quiet this morning


<a class="postlink" href="http://alfredopedulla.globalist.it/articoli/4534-esclusiva-de-rossi-il-city-insister-e-de-jong" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://alfredopedulla.globalist.it/arti ... -e-de-jong</a>


Is that the same article ? It mentions de Jong

no it's new


The Rome might be able to resist, but Manchester City is going to go all the way for Daniele De Rossi. The idea is to formalize of a formal proposal that stagger the Giallorossi, arriving at the famous ceiling of 40 million. We will see. For this reason it has not taken any decision on De Jong: Inter is in pressure, there is a node engagement, but it is clear that since the contract expires in 2013, will arrive at a solution. And some say that De Jong could be brought to Rome in the mega offer for De Rossi ...

Thanks for translating
 
dancity19 said:
NipHolmes said:
grunge said:
FBloke tends to be wrong a lot. I still remember him saying Nasri had signed for United and then he signed for us about 8 hours later.

I stopped listening to Fbloke though with his constant "Look at me, I got it right, im the big I am" type crap he spouts.

Completely agree, I am merely repeating what he has said. He fancied us getting Martinez too.

As I said, nobody is accurate ITK on here. I take everything as nothing more than text. Hopefully people will be correct but bar the lad who called minor movements and the lad who called the Omar lad and also the cruise ship thread its been a load of bollocks and wasted bandwidth.

I know one thing about us, we will defo be buying a player of magnitude. No way we win the league and buy just Rodwell whilst we need a CB and CM/CDM. Just not happening. Mancini is a clever man and he knows how damaged we were when Yaya went and so too Kolo. We were average in Europe and if we are to progress we need to strengthen. We will, however it is fashionable to say we are ok and don't need additions and to call others flappers.

That is spot on. I also have a feeling we will get someone of magnitude, especially after them getting RVP and us losing out to Hazard. As I said, there is no place for standing still in football, and a team can always be improved upon.

At the end of the day, had we signed RVP people would be arguing we were miles ahead of United, now the same people call others flappers for wanting a signing. We are still better than United, I am certain, but just to freshen things up a team can always be improved upon.

IMO RVP will really change their whole dynamic and make them stronger. I still think they need an LB and I still think they miss Keane and Hargreaves and now Fletcher. They too should be in for DDR.

Fact of the matter for me is this, we are told our failiure was down to us being in the CL for first time, so were Napoli, we beat a team that got relegated in La Liga, beat a weakened Bayern and got a draw against Napoli. We lost to Liverpool in the CC because of us being weakened and we lost games in the prem we shouldn't have. We have quality beyond all others in the first 11, but after that we are needing imo. Not attacking wise, just in defense and midfield. 2 players and a wideman would finish us off perfectly. By buying an Agger and De Rossi we are stregthening our first team and also squad as we have Lescott and Barry to rotate. Simpel really, as for wide man I really think we need one but if worse comes to worse I'd play Milner and Johnson as wingers as that means we don't spend and also utilise what we have. I'd love Pedro, but it's not happening. But CB and CM are not an option imo. I don't feel any sense of entitlement to the league but I don't want United to win it as it means they will be back on top and Fergie wins. That's not an option. We must build on this and see the league as our bread and butter whilst chasing down the elite of Europe in Real, Barca and Bayern.
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
blue wang said:
CTID101 said:
A signing like this could be in motion. No one knew about Rodwell.

We have got very good at keeping our transfer news out of the press.

Rights gents, we need to put our heads together. Question everyone, leave no stone unterned. Some one must be "in the know'

Yes we had one but everyone mugged him off

Well he said forget De Rossi.
 
80s Shorts said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
blue wang said:
Rights gents, we need to put our heads together. Question everyone, leave no stone unterned. Some one must be "in the know'

Yes we had one but everyone mugged him off

Well he said forget De Rossi.

That was while we still had funds set aside for RVP (won't be needing that any more) and also while Javi Martinez was still in the picture. Things have changed, I'd still be surprised if we get him, but it wouldn't be unthinkable.
 
Forzacitizens said:
bobmcfc said:
Marvin said:
Alfredo Pedulla is quiet this morning


<a class="postlink" href="http://alfredopedulla.globalist.it/articoli/4534-esclusiva-de-rossi-il-city-insister-e-de-jong" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://alfredopedulla.globalist.it/arti ... -e-de-jong</a>


Is that the same article ? It mentions de Jong

no it's new


The Rome might be able to resist, but Manchester City is going to go all the way for Daniele De Rossi. The idea is to formalize of a formal proposal that stagger the Giallorossi, arriving at the famous ceiling of 40 million. We will see. For this reason it has not taken any decision on De Jong: Inter is in pressure, there is a node engagement, but it is clear that since the contract expires in 2013, will arrive at a solution. And some say that De Jong could be brought to Rome in the mega offer for De Rossi ...


I cannot seer why this cannot happen.

De Rossi for De Jong + cash is a no brainer. They get a replacement and a quality one in that, and also some funds to go and strengthen their team to push on next season up the league and try to regain a CL spot.

Reason must prevail, if we cannot get this done by the weekend we must move on and hurry as top players will be hard to sign from top clubs. Roma really need to do this deal, they are getting a windfall for a player who is 29. Makes so much sense for them and obviously us. Yaya and De Rossi is stuff of dreams, imo it is the move that puts us in the elite bracket. It's the missing piece of the jigsaw.
 
NipHolmes said:
the originalkippaxman said:
NipHolmes said:
Not being harsh or anything to TH but I find it pathetic. He gave info as fact and the info wasn't correct and then people pulled him up and he went off on one. If you put yourself in the frontline don't come crying if you get shot. Simple as that.

Have to agree with this. Though for me it was all those annoying you tube videos which people would construed to mean anything.

Say who it is and don't pussy foot around and put your neck on the block.

That's the way I see things too.

Go for the glory or go home ;)
Tolmie is party to insider knowledge about our targets, but not even Mancini can know 100% who we will sign since the board look to address FFP and we have difficulty selling our players on high wages.
TH reports on our club in an optimistic way because he is a keen City fan but as far as I am aware, he has never given any factually incorrect info.
 
skybluecelt1990 said:
80s Shorts said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Yes we had one but everyone mugged him off

Well he said forget De Rossi.

That was while we still had funds set aside for RVP (won't be needing that any more) and also while Javi Martinez was still in the picture. Things have changed, I'd still be surprised if we get him, but it wouldn't be unthinkable.

I see your point but TH said too many hurdles for player himself i.e living situation with custody battle etc.

He 100% was adamant we would not get De Rossi. I am gald we didn't get Martinez because at 40m euro it's daylight robbery. I shook my head in disbelief that he went for that figure, good player with a promising future but not De Rossi level, nowhere near.
 
Plain Speaking said:
NipHolmes said:
the originalkippaxman said:
Have to agree with this. Though for me it was all those annoying you tube videos which people would construed to mean anything.

Say who it is and don't pussy foot around and put your neck on the block.

That's the way I see things too.

Go for the glory or go home ;)
Tolmie is party to insider knowledge about our targets, but not even Mancini can know 100% who we will sign since the board look to address FFP and we have difficulty selling our players on high wages.
TH reports on our club in an optimistic way because he is a keen City fan but as far as I am aware, he has never given any factually incorrect info.

I believe that.
He's defo got some info as he called the Redknapp sacking for example. I just don't rate the source where he gets his info as ITK.

Mancini is privvy to everything imo. No way on goods earth he signs a new deal without making the request to be privvy and have his say. He will say we need a CB, the club will offer him a few names and he will say who he fancies most and then the club will try and sign that player. We are defo trying to comply with FFP and next season I think we will be good to go from the off as Chelsea have. The club should offer Kolo and RSC free transfers with no payoffs to help moves go through. It's a hit but so is keeping them and paying wages. Adebayor is the only really awkward one imo, nightmare that tosser.
 
NipHolmes said:
Plain Speaking said:
NipHolmes said:
That's the way I see things too.

Go for the glory or go home ;)
Tolmie is party to insider knowledge about our targets, but not even Mancini can know 100% who we will sign since the board look to address FFP and we have difficulty selling our players on high wages.
TH reports on our club in an optimistic way because he is a keen City fan but as far as I am aware, he has never given any factually incorrect info.

I believe that.
He's defo got some info as he called the Redknapp sacking for example. I just don't rate the source where he gets his info as ITK.

Mancini is privvy to everything imo. No way on goods earth he signs a new deal without making the request to be privvy and have his say. He will say we need a CB, the club will offer him a few names and he will say who he fancies most and then the club will try and sign that player. We are defo trying to comply with FFP and next season I think we will be good to go from the off as Chelsea have. The club should offer Kolo and RSC free transfers with no payoffs to help moves go through. It's a hit but so is keeping them and paying wages. Adebayor is the only really awkward one imo, nightmare that tosser.
IMO TH has multiple ITK sources inside and outside the club, not just one.

Until we get another CB, Kolo can provide needed cover particularly with VK finding it hard to shake off his calf injury sustained last season!

I would dearly like us to stitch up Spurs who are trying to rip us off over Adebayor.
RSC seems surplus I agree maybe some deal could be done to make him more affordable to purchasers.
 
Plain Speaking said:
NipHolmes said:
Plain Speaking said:
Tolmie is party to insider knowledge about our targets, but not even Mancini can know 100% who we will sign since the board look to address FFP and we have difficulty selling our players on high wages.
TH reports on our club in an optimistic way because he is a keen City fan but as far as I am aware, he has never given any factually incorrect info.

I believe that.
He's defo got some info as he called the Redknapp sacking for example. I just don't rate the source where he gets his info as ITK.

Mancini is privvy to everything imo. No way on goods earth he signs a new deal without making the request to be privvy and have his say. He will say we need a CB, the club will offer him a few names and he will say who he fancies most and then the club will try and sign that player. We are defo trying to comply with FFP and next season I think we will be good to go from the off as Chelsea have. The club should offer Kolo and RSC free transfers with no payoffs to help moves go through. It's a hit but so is keeping them and paying wages. Adebayor is the only really awkward one imo, nightmare that tosser.
IMO TH has multiple ITK sources inside and outside the club, not just one.

Until we get another CB, Kolo can provide needed cover particularly with VK finding it hard to shake off his calf injury sustained last season!

I would dearly like us to stitch up Spurs who are trying to rip us off over Adebayor.
RSC seems surplus I agree maybe some deal could be done to make him more affordable to purchasers.


If we don't get another CB and Kolo goes to ACON and Lescott or Kompany get injured that mean we have to start Savic :(

As for Ade, where do you see us offloading him? I hoped PSG but I'm pissing in the wind it seems.
 
TH has laid out good reasons in the past as to why we were highly unlikely to sign DDR. Those reasons remain in place but they do not mean that the club cannot change its position on DDR or any other player in response to events in the transfer market etc.

I very much doubt that we will sign DDR but I would dearly like someone with the power at City to decide to make a serious effort to extract him from Rome this summer.

To match what I believe are the club's aspirations, we need to make a small number of key improvements to the squad and, if need be, risk the wrath of UEFA.
 
NipHolmes said:
Plain Speaking said:
NipHolmes said:
I believe that.
He's defo got some info as he called the Redknapp sacking for example. I just don't rate the source where he gets his info as ITK.

Mancini is privvy to everything imo. No way on goods earth he signs a new deal without making the request to be privvy and have his say. He will say we need a CB, the club will offer him a few names and he will say who he fancies most and then the club will try and sign that player. We are defo trying to comply with FFP and next season I think we will be good to go from the off as Chelsea have. The club should offer Kolo and RSC free transfers with no payoffs to help moves go through. It's a hit but so is keeping them and paying wages. Adebayor is the only really awkward one imo, nightmare that tosser.
IMO TH has multiple ITK sources inside and outside the club, not just one.

Until we get another CB, Kolo can provide needed cover particularly with VK finding it hard to shake off his calf injury sustained last season!

I would dearly like us to stitch up Spurs who are trying to rip us off over Adebayor.
RSC seems surplus I agree maybe some deal could be done to make him more affordable to purchasers.


If we don't get another CB and Kolo goes to ACON and Lescott or Kompany get injured that mean we have to start Savic :(

As for Ade, where do you see us offloading him? I hoped PSG but I'm pissing in the wind it seems.
Well considering Mancini picks Savic over Kolo anyway I dont think it worries him at all. Although it frightens the crap out of me
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
NipHolmes said:
Plain Speaking said:
IMO TH has multiple ITK sources inside and outside the club, not just one.

Until we get another CB, Kolo can provide needed cover particularly with VK finding it hard to shake off his calf injury sustained last season!

I would dearly like us to stitch up Spurs who are trying to rip us off over Adebayor.
RSC seems surplus I agree maybe some deal could be done to make him more affordable to purchasers.


If we don't get another CB and Kolo goes to ACON and Lescott or Kompany get injured that mean we have to start Savic :(

As for Ade, where do you see us offloading him? I hoped PSG but I'm pissing in the wind it seems.
Well considering Mancini picks Savic over Kolo anyway I dont think it worries him at all. Although it frightens the crap out of me

Savic-age, I call him Savage at the match and every fan I have spoken to is worried about him. We cant all be wrong. He was a bad buy, he cant adapt to league and should be loaned out with view to sale back in Italy or sold as long as we get half decent money back for him. Every second he is at the club is a second to long. Woeful player whom steals a living here. Would sooner put De Jong at CB than start him.
 
NipHolmes said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
NipHolmes said:
If we don't get another CB and Kolo goes to ACON and Lescott or Kompany get injured that mean we have to start Savic :(

As for Ade, where do you see us offloading him? I hoped PSG but I'm pissing in the wind it seems.
Well considering Mancini picks Savic over Kolo anyway I dont think it worries him at all. Although it frightens the crap out of me

Savic-age, I call him Savage at the match and every fan I have spoken to is worried about him. We cant all be wrong. He was a bad buy, he cant adapt to league and should be loaned out with view to sale back in Italy or sold as long as we get half decent money back for him. Every second he is at the club is a second to long. Woeful player whom steals a living here. Would sooner put De Jong at CB than start him.


I'd definitely use Rodwell ahead of Savic as a CB but Rodwell has been bought for midfield.
 
OB1 said:
NipHolmes said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Well considering Mancini picks Savic over Kolo anyway I dont think it worries him at all. Although it frightens the crap out of me

Savic-age, I call him Savage at the match and every fan I have spoken to is worried about him. We cant all be wrong. He was a bad buy, he cant adapt to league and should be loaned out with view to sale back in Italy or sold as long as we get half decent money back for him. Every second he is at the club is a second to long. Woeful player whom steals a living here. Would sooner put De Jong at CB than start him.


I'd definitely use Rodwell ahead of Savic as a CB but Rodwell has been bought for midfield.

The heir to Barry no doubt. My mate is an Everton ST fan. He said when Rodwell played in defense he was 'boss'. He said he'd be good player but not our level, will be interesting and my opinion is on hold right now. Would not mind him being a CB makeshift if we don't get Agger. Just not Savic, I shudder with pain when I see him lineup on field.

I dont get why we let Boateng go and bought Savic, that's like letting Silva go to buy Henderson.

I have a theory that Mancini is actually Savic's biological father or a heroin addict whom Mancini wants to correct the ways of. He shows him patience of a Saint.
 
NipHolmes said:
I dont get why we let Boateng go and bought Savic, that's like letting Silva go to buy Henderson.

You overrate Boateng. There's no doubting how crap Savic is, but Boateng certainly isn't as good as people make him out to be.
 
I doubt we will get De Rossi.

The deal would be too expensive, and I'm not sure he would want to leave his club in the first place.
 
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