Deal agreed with Bayern Munich for Leroy Sane - €60m (including add-ons)

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Loss of value is not a loss of money and the two are not interchangeable.
Also, in this case, everyone’s valuation of Leroy is different, city’s, Bayern’s, yours, mine etc.
If city valued Leroy at £50mil you value him at £100mil is that still a loss?
No because that extra £50mil doesn’t actually exist
I get what you mean, but I look at it simplistically. Sell him this summer and we have 40/50 million to re invest in players. Wait a year and we don’t get anything for him. One year we have 50 million, next year we get nothing. Spin it any way you like but that’s 50 million we could have for a player who doesn’t want to be here.
 
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I get what you mean, but I look at it simplistically. Sell him this summer and we have 40/50 million to re invest in players. Wait a year and we don’t get anything for him. One year we have 50 million, next year we get nothing. Spin it any way you like but that’s 50 million we could have for a player who doesn’t want to be here.

Agree with you just think we have to pick a fee we feel he is worth and stick to our guns
 
I’ve got nothing against Sane and if he wants to leave I wish him well. However, Bayern are a bunch of ****s and I wouldnt even give them the steam off my piss. In this saga and when they previously signed Boateng, they waltzed in like we owed them something and thought they had a god given right to get the players on their terms.

If Sane gets made an example of for us to stick it to Bayern then so be it. I’d actually offer him to every major European side for £60/70 million aside from Bayern. If Bayern want him they can pay an £80 million, call it a **** tax. Hazard who is older than Sane went for a much higher fee to Madrid when he had a year left on his contract.

I’d also offer Sane a new deal with a clause that allows him to sign for Bayern for £80 million at any point. If he refuses to sign the deal or move anywhere else other than Bayern, they let him rot in the reserves for the next year.

Contracts are a two way street and whilst I don’t like to see any player missing two years of first team football, players should not take the piss by accepting deals with other clubs and disrespecting their current club in the process, especially when the club have supported him through a serious injury.
 
I think we will look at Sane playing for Bayern in 3/4 years time in the Champions League and think "wow, he played for us".

But it is weird as i'm not bothered if he goes now. Wish him well though. Been a huge part in two title wins and will make a profit on him.
 
I’ve got nothing against Sane and if he wants to leave I wish him well. However, Bayern are a bunch of ****s and I wouldnt even give them the steam off my piss. In this saga and when they previously signed Boateng, they waltzed in like we owed them something and thought they had a god given right to get the players on their terms.

If Sane gets made an example of for us to stick it to Bayern then so be it. I’d actually offer him to every major European side for £60/70 million aside from Bayern. If Bayern want him they can pay an £80 million, call it a **** tax. Hazard who is older than Sane went for a much higher fee to Madrid when he had a year left on his contract.

I’d also offer Sane a new deal with a clause that allows him to sign for Bayern for £80 million at any point. If he refuses to sign the deal or move anywhere else other than Bayern, they let him rot in the reserves for the next year.

Contracts are a two way street and whilst I don’t like to see any player missing two years of first team football, players should not take the piss by accepting deals with other clubs and disrespecting their current club in the process, especially when the club have supported him through a serious injury.

virtually all the players that leave us i have wished well - but not with Sane - i think his disrespect for the club and manager has ben awful - his silence was deafening - he could have just come out and said i want to leave and go to Bayern but he just sat there and did/said nothing.

It is clear that there is an arrogance there as he is clearly not ready to fight for a regular starting place (just like Sancho in my opinion but obviously Sane is further along in his development) and thinks he just deserves to play over Sterling, Bernardo, Mahrez - all who have also adapted their game (along with Kun) to fit what Pep wants where as (and there have been many examples) Sane cannot (or will not) follow what Pep wants him to do and he has to get regular bollockings from the sidelines - his ego cannt take this. Compare it to Jesus a well who will sit patiently and wait his chance, play a variety of positions and roles and runs his bollock off to help the team - none of which Sane is willing to do. He is a twt and i dont think Ive ever said that about one of our plaes before - I have slated loads for lack of ability/not being good enough but nothing abuot them personally (maybe Barton)
 
virtually all the players that leave us i have wished well - but not with Sane - i think his disrespect for the club and manager has ben awful - his silence was deafening - he could have just come out and said i want to leave and go to Bayern but he just sat there and did/said nothing.

It is clear that there is an arrogance there as he is clearly not ready to fight for a regular starting place (just like Sancho in my opinion but obviously Sane is further along in his development) and thinks he just deserves to play over Sterling, Bernardo, Mahrez - all who have also adapted their game (along with Kun) to fit what Pep wants where as (and there have been many examples) Sane cannot (or will not) follow what Pep wants him to do and he has to get regular bollockings from the sidelines - his ego cannt take this. Compare it to Jesus a well who will sit patiently and wait his chance, play a variety of positions and roles and runs his bollock off to help the team - none of which Sane is willing to do. He is a twt and i dont think Ive ever said that about one of our plaes before - I have slated loads for lack of ability/not being good enough but nothing abuot them personally (maybe Barton)
Another fucking stupid statement driven by ignorance with no facts. For all you know he might have sick parents, grandparents or other relatives that he would like to spend more time with. He might prefer to bring his kid up in Germany, he might just not like the English lifestyle, he may want to be closer to his friends; we have no idea.

Publicly saying he wants to leave will do one thing and one thing only; reduce our negotiating power. So he's done absolutely the right thing and kept quiet to protect the clubs investment. By not signing a new contract he leaves his options open. As a young man he may change his mind, he may not, who cares, it's his decision. If he plays out the remainder of the season he's done exactly what we signed him to do, play well and win trophies over the 5 year period he signed his original contract to do.
 
Our ‘fans’ make me laugh. We sign a player with no affiliation with the club, he helps us win titles and now when he wants to return home we don’t wish him well. Doolally
 
Another fucking stupid statement driven by ignorance with no facts. For all you know he might have sick parents, grandparents or other relatives that he would like to spend more time with. He might prefer to bring his kid up in Germany, he might just not like the English lifestyle, he may want to be closer to his friends; we have no idea.

Publicly saying he wants to leave will do one thing and one thing only; reduce our negotiating power. So he's done absolutely the right thing and kept quiet to protect the clubs investment. By not signing a new contract he leaves his options open. As a young man he may change his mind, he may not, who cares, it's his decision. If he plays out the remainder of the season he's done exactly what we signed him to do, play well and win trophies over the 5 year period he signed his original contract to do.

We have no idea, yet you make up half a dozen strawmen arguments to justify your take and that's fine...
 
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