Dear Atheists..

ted the grass said:
errrrrr...The Book of Genesis. [1:1] In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth
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Oh if you are going to take everything as gospel. ......
What he means is there was a planet but it was not a nice place to live in, volcanoes and all that shit. He made it safe for us to live on.
 
johnny crossan said:
I think most folk have worked out that it's not a choice, immortality is an added bonus for some of us meaning-seeking animals looking for a happy ending.
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We're all looking for meaning, atheist, agnostic, theist and deist alike.

When you accept that there is no (theistic) God you get to choose what is meaningful.
 
KS55 said:
Churches and religions of all types have been obsessed by sex and sexuality since the year dot. Of course it’s always somebody else’s sex they are focussed on. Weird doesn’t begin to describe it.

But why is the view so many of them have so weird? Even the good old C of E supported African bishops anti gay stance against US anglicans appointing gay bishops. The C of E apparently says it’s ok to be a gay vicar, provided you don’t tell anybody. Muslim women should be dressed in all covering black so as not to cause men to sin. And so on…
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I am as baffled as you by institutional religion.
 
Here's my take, for what it's worth.

There are many unanswered questions to which I do not know the answers but if I were a betting man I would bet that none of the many religions have those answers. I see religion as a coping mechanism, invented by man for many reasons but which serve mans need to square the circle, to give meaning to life.

My feeling is that there may be forces in the universe which are beyond our comprehension but in all likelihood the human race will destroy itself long before gaining the awareness necessary to understand.
 
Maybe it wasn't an asteroid that killed the dinosaur. Maybe the cavemen, and women, simply ate them all. I mean, settlers in the early U.S. nearly wiped out the buffalo so, well you know.

I'm just sayin'
 
KS55 said:
Churches and religions of all types have been obsessed by sex and sexuality since the year dot. Of course it’s always somebody else’s sex they are focussed on. Weird doesn’t begin to describe it.

But why is the view so many of them have so weird? Even the good old C of E supported African bishops anti gay stance against US anglicans appointing gay bishops. The C of E apparently says it’s ok to be a gay vicar, provided you don’t tell anybody. Muslim women should be dressed in all covering black so as not to cause men to sin. And so on…
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THe old Norse ,Roman, Greek and Celtic deities were all about the poontang man...
 
johnny crossan said:
Wrong conclusion, you can believe both but not if you are an atheist of course, which requires you to believe something came from nothing.
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To all intents and purposes I am an atheist but strictly speaking I'm an agnostic.

Nobody can prove or disprove the existence or non-existence of a deistic God, so there's doubt. But the overwhelming probability is that Einstein's god (the one who doesn't play dice) doesn't exist.

When we are talking about a theistic god we're on firmer ground. Jesus was not the son of God, the Jews will wait in vain for the second coming and Mohammed invented the verses in the Koran.

I don't believe 'something came from nothing' I know that the current state of scientific thinking can take us no further back than the Big Bang.

I also know that just as Einstein's model of the Universe supplanted Newtons, current orthodox thinking will be modified as we learn more.
 
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