Bill Walker
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Yeah , I mean , it's not like anyone has answered it..
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Dear Atheists..
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calumdown
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reform is your word, not mine.Islam does not reform with the times. It gets more out of date with every passing day. It’s also a religion that isn’t even fully translated into any modern language and what has been has many different interpretations.
There are no laws of mythologies. Some have one god, others have well over a thousand. Some think the Earth is about 6,000 years old, others understand it’s billions of years old. Some think there’s an afterlife, others don’t. They all contradict each other. Some mythologies refuse to reform, whereas others are constantly reforming to get more people to believe in them by deleting the more stupid and fantastical stuff as physics proves them wrong. All mythologies claim things that go against the laws of physics despite the laws of physics being the same in every atom in the entire universe.
Some mythologies like Islam in some areas of the world would murder their own for questioning the existence of god, others like Hinduism has a part of their religion that believes atheism and it’s ingrained in the culture around and within the mythology.
The core of mythologies are all over the place.
But the laws of physics are the laws of physics. Not only are they not different in Arabia and India, they aren’t different anywhere in the universe now, weren’t different anywhere in the universe 14bn years ago and won’t be different anywhere in the universe in 100 trillion years.
The details of science therefore never change because the laws of physics have never and will never change but our greater understanding of the outcomes and answers to certain questions do get updated.
i didn't use that word, or at least i don't think i did.
i said religion changes over time but the core remains the same.
regardless of the actual faith.
i wasn't saying the core of all religions are the same.
i was saying each religion that exists changes over time
you mention islam.
when islam was invented it was one thing.
"here you go, everyone, here's a new religion".
over time it has changed,
the core remains the same,
but now there are about 70 different versions of it.
as for your suggestion that every atom of the universe is the same,
well, that cannot possibly be proven with just pen and paper.
it may well be correct but there is no actual proof of it.
it requires faith to believe it's true.
and you are again circumnavigating my argument by saying the laws of physics don't change.
i stated that science changes over time but the core remains the same.
i believe that to be true and nobody has proved me wrong.
science tells us now that the laws of physics are different in outer space than they are in our galaxy.
when the laws of physics were invented they were said to be the same eveywhere.
we now know that to not be true,
therefore the laws of physics have changed.
unless this bloke is chatting shit
johnny crossan
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A blue whale is larger than a brachiosaurus I thinkreform is your word, not mine.
i didn't use that word, or at least i don't think i did.
i said religion changes over time but the core remains the same.
regardless of the actual faith.
i wasn't saying the core of all religions are the same.
i was saying each religion that exists changes over time
you mention islam.
when islam was invented it was one thing.
"here you go, everyone, here's a new religion".
over time it has changed,
the core remains the same,
but now there are about 70 different versions of it.
as for your suggestion that every atom of the universe is the same,
well, that cannot possibly be proven with just pen and paper.
it may well be correct but there is no actual proof of it.
it requires faith to believe it's true.
and you are again circumnavigating my argument by saying the laws of physics don't change.
i stated that science changes over time but the core remains the same.
i believe that to be true and nobody has proved me wrong.
science tells us now that the laws of physics are different in outer space than they are in our galaxy.
when the laws of physics were invented they were said to be the same eveywhere.
we now know that to not be true,
therefore the laws of physics have changed.
unless this bloke is chatting shit
calumdown
Well-Known Member
longer, not necessarily larger :)A blue whale is larger than a brachiosaurus I think
I'm With Stupid
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The blue whale is the biggest animal that's ever lived. I assume the article is referring to it as a record for a land animal.longer, not necessarily larger :)
been a very busy lad this deity putting different laws of physics here there and everywherereform is your word, not mine.
i didn't use that word, or at least i don't think i did.
i said religion changes over time but the core remains the same.
regardless of the actual faith.
i wasn't saying the core of all religions are the same.
i was saying each religion that exists changes over time
you mention islam.
when islam was invented it was one thing.
"here you go, everyone, here's a new religion".
over time it has changed,
the core remains the same,
but now there are about 70 different versions of it.
as for your suggestion that every atom of the universe is the same,
well, that cannot possibly be proven with just pen and paper.
it may well be correct but there is no actual proof of it.
it requires faith to believe it's true.
and you are again circumnavigating my argument by saying the laws of physics don't change.
i stated that science changes over time but the core remains the same.
i believe that to be true and nobody has proved me wrong.
science tells us now that the laws of physics are different in outer space than they are in our galaxy.
when the laws of physics were invented they were said to be the same eveywhere.
we now know that to not be true,
therefore the laws of physics have changed.
unless this bloke is chatting shit
wonder why he'd do that?
mrbelfry
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i'm obviously not going to make a your momma joke but someone else mightThe blue whale is the biggest animal that's ever lived. I assume the article is referring to it as a record for a land animal.
calumdown
Well-Known Member
to confuse scientists into believing he doesn't exist?been a very busy lad this deity putting different laws of physics here there and everywhere
wonder why he'd do that?
as baudelaire said...
la plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas.
proper clever that lad isto confuse scientists into believing he doesn't exist?
as baudelaire said...
la plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas.
funny how the all powerful can't get rid of ole Beelzebub though
pesky little chap he is
maybe he's not as clever as we think
calumdown
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that made me ponder about yonder god...proper clever that lad is
presumably god can/could speak.
what language will/would he speak?
the first written language we know of is sumerian,
somewhere in what we now call iraq i think.
but the first known human was homo habilis,
somewhere near what we now call ethiopia i think.
and hinduism is the first known religion,
somewhere in what we now call pakistan i think.