Declan Rice

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daztrueblue91 said:
Rice is a brilliant player but £100 million is a crazy fee.

With the limited minutes Phillips had last season, he’s virtually a new signing for us and when on form he’s a very good player.

There’s a much better deal to be done for James Maddison. Half the price of Rice and he actually adds creativity to the middle of the park which is what we need in KDBs absence.
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People need to forget price.

It's marginal gains for a team as great as City's.

There are very few players who might be available or who might want to join us, who can improve us.

Rice improves us and keeps us ahead of the chasing pack.

It also covers the eventuality when Rodri finishes or even wants to leave.
 
I think the question to ask would be what does declan rice bring , does he make us slightly better? maybe, does he turn arsenal into title contenders, i doubt it. The confidence that arsenal have on the back of two thirds of a good season is insane. Arsenal quite simply had a leicester season and the only difference is leicester got it over the line and arsenal didnt, the reason this is even a conversation is that those muppets on aftv have managed to parlay their little rants into a legitimate sports business and are now pushing this agenda that arsenal are back where they should be yadda yadda, last four seasons they have finished 8th, 8th, 5th and 2nd, now some will say thats an upward trend, i say thats an anomaly of a season. Rice may well go to arsenal and more power to him if he does but the only argument that arsenal makes for him going there is that he gets in their team every week but he doesnt get in ours and if thats the mentality that he has then he shouldnt be at city. My god if we were talking about signing a young spanish or french midfielder from a team anywhere but england that had finished 14th for figures north of 100m the world would rightly say we wed gone mad
 
Pollocks OG said:
Why are we assuming City will pull out now? Am I missing something?
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Because it is a sensible assumption.

The club walked away from pursuing Harry Kane over a similar amount when our greatest striker needed replaced, and went into the season without anyone there. Waited a year for a defender when Vince left, waited a year for Rodri rather than paying 5-10m more for Jorginho.

Maybe the club do a fuck-it bid. Unlike the examples above, we have 3 players in that position already, and no need to pay silly money.
 
Bald fraud said:
Not worth it. If Arsenal sign him for that price it will be heralded in the media and all we’ll hear about is how they’ve got one over on city. How he’s chosen history over money blah blah blah. If we sign him for that price it will be disgusting. Ruining football farmers league blah blah blah.
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Why do you care though?
 
West Ham won’t accept drip feeding payments for their biggest asset. We could still get him but I’d use Phillips in the deal with a smaller fee
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
People need to forget price.

It's marginal gains for a team as great as City's.

There are very few players who might be available or who might want to join us, who can improve us.

Rice improves us and keeps us ahead of the chasing pack.

It also covers the eventuality when Rodri finishes or even wants to leave.
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Gundo(or Bernie) out and Rice in isn't an improvement.

Or

As no-one actually knows the thinking behind bringing him in(positionally/role in team). The only claim regarding him improving us you can say with your chest is he's better than Phillips.
 
I just dont get the comparisons in this deal, is rice twice the player phillips is, twice the player that stones is, 3 times the player that alexis macallister is, better than the great hope that is jude bellingham. No doubt he is a very good player but the comparisons just do not match up, if rice is 105m then what price foden, and i know there is alot of phillips hate on here and thats fair but if they sell rice for 105m then want phillips of us well hes a 75m player now because they have set the market. Rice is 24 and cost 105m, kovacic is 29 and 25m, kovacic has 4 champs leagues under his belt and success in 2 different leagues, rice will have to win the cl and another trophy from now till hes kovacic age just to match it and i know trophies aint everything in terms of matching players but they are a barometer
 
Coatigan said:
Because it is a sensible assumption.

The club walked away from pursuing Harry Kane over a similar amount when our greatest striker needed replaced, and went into the season without anyone there. Waited a year for a defender when Vince left, waited a year for Rodri rather than paying 5-10m more for Jorginho.

Maybe the club do a fuck-it bid. Unlike the examples above, we have 3 players in that position already, and no need to pay silly money.
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Stances do change.

If anything, waiting means the market will dictate even more a higher price in the months and seasons to come.

Especially so, as we have now telegraphed we want Rice/midfielder of his type.

Haaland was an opportunity because of his release clause, otherwise we have to find £200m last summer, more than Kane would have cost us.

The overriding sense is Pep wants Rice and coming off the back of last season, we should deliver for him.

All these other names being suggested, unless it's FDJ, the rest are shit l, unproven, or likely to miss home and their momma.
 
Bald fraud said:
Not worth it. If Arsenal sign him for that price it will be heralded in the media and all we’ll hear about is how they’ve got one over on city. How he’s chosen history over money blah blah blah. If we sign him for that price it will be disgusting. Ruining football farmers league blah blah blah.
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Grealish isn't worth £100m.

The market dictates and we can either shit or get off the pot and allow other teams to catch up.

We have our foot on the neck of football, this is absolutely the time we should keep it there and destroy optimism elsewhere.

I saw a piece yesterday which said when United won the Treble in 99, they went out and bought Silvestre, Taibi and some other no mark for a combined for £10m.

Arsenal said thanks for very much.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
People need to forget price.

It's marginal gains for a team as great as City's.

There are very few players who might be available or who might want to join us, who can improve us.

Rice improves us and keeps us ahead of the chasing pack.

It also covers the eventuality when Rodri finishes or even wants to leave.
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It’s a lot of money for someone who arguably wouldn’t even be in our best starting XI.

I think a few are being caught up in now having to beat Arsenal to his signature. I wouldn’t be heartbroken if we lost out on this one.

We have a glaring weakness at RW/RF (even more so if Bernie goes) and would prefer serious money be spent there.
 
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