billfromthehill
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I said I don't like them ok ,so stick your bollox reply ok it's my opinion ye!Yaya_Tony said:
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Defeat I can accept but a lack of effort not.
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A constant criticism is the lack of effort and passion
Apparently most of our squad are living on past glories and just going through the motions
Other teams always want 'it' more
We can't head shoot or pass, or defend or attack
We have no passion
We have no commitment
Joe Hart is a big-time Charlie
This is a synopsis of the relevant threads on the Cardiff game
It seems we signed the wrong manager, the obvious candidate to supply the 'passion' and please the posters thirst for 'passion' is clearly ..........Big Sam, no more fancy dan flicks and spins, just get it in the box, plenty of yellow cards, elbows, timewasting, but above all 'passion'
Apparently most of our squad are living on past glories and just going through the motions
Other teams always want 'it' more
We can't head shoot or pass, or defend or attack
We have no passion
We have no commitment
Joe Hart is a big-time Charlie
This is a synopsis of the relevant threads on the Cardiff game
It seems we signed the wrong manager, the obvious candidate to supply the 'passion' and please the posters thirst for 'passion' is clearly ..........Big Sam, no more fancy dan flicks and spins, just get it in the box, plenty of yellow cards, elbows, timewasting, but above all 'passion'
bellbuzzer said:A constant criticism is the lack of effort and passion
Apparently most of our squad are living on past glories and just going through the motions
Other teams always want 'it' more
We can't head shoot or pass, or defend or attack
We have no passion
We have no commitment
Joe Hart is a big-time Charlie
This is a synopsis of the relevant threads on the Cardiff game
It seems we signed the wrong manager, the obvious candidate to supply the 'passion' and please the posters thirst for 'passion' is clearly ..........Big Sam, no more fancy dan flicks and spins, just get it in the box, plenty of yellow cards, elbows, timewasting, but above all 'passion'
There's nothing wrong with passion. In most sports where two opponents are finely matched it often comes down to who wants it more. Skill and technique may dictate at what level you play but passion and desire will ultimately decide the winners.
Bill
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It is all that matters. Every single aspect of the club is governed by what goes on on the pitch. Even if Roy fucking Keane took over as long as silverware followed the club would grow and so would our standing and stature. Makes money.BillyShears said:Damocles said:It feels daft to say this but unless Pellegrini does absolutely awful this year (as in 5th), I don't see the problem.
The problem, certainly amongst the supporters, is also pretty simple. Pellegrini replaced one of the most popular and successful managers in City's history. The fact the change was made for reasons wider than simply games won/lost is difficult for people to stomach as that's the only thing that generally matters to supporters. That's my take anyway.
citymad
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FantasyIreland said:Some of our players simply don't have the heart when the going gets tough.
This. Do they think they've made it already and lack desire to be successful? They need to have more respect for the club, its owners and fans.
de niro said:It is all that matters. Every single aspect of the club is governed by what goes on on the pitch. Even if Roy fucking Keane took over as long as silverware followed the club would grow and so would our standing and stature. Makes money.BillyShears said:Damocles said:It feels daft to say this but unless Pellegrini does absolutely awful this year (as in 5th), I don't see the problem.
The problem, certainly amongst the supporters, is also pretty simple. Pellegrini replaced one of the most popular and successful managers in City's history. The fact the change was made for reasons wider than simply games won/lost is difficult for people to stomach as that's the only thing that generally matters to supporters. That's my take anyway.
Whilst that is the ultimate goal of any football club, the days where winning was the only thing that mattered are now long gone. I don't think Sheikh Mansour bought the club to win a few trophies, I think they see it as an opportunity to present the Abu Dhabi style to the world and that means not just winning but winning in a certain way.
We may not like it but it is what it is. These Spanish lads weren't hired to ensure we win trophies but that we do our business in a certain way.
There's nothing wrong with passion. In most sports where two opponents are finely matched it often comes down to who wants it more. Skill and technique may dictate at what level you play but passion and desire will ultimately decide the winners.[/quote]
to some, it's the be-all and end-all which it will never be. We lost at Cardiff for many reasons, a lack of passion not being one of them
to some, it's the be-all and end-all which it will never be. We lost at Cardiff for many reasons, a lack of passion not being one of them
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader
Well-Known Member
The style of play, whether it's high tempo or pass-to-death toitoise football, needs to be underpinned by effort and commitment. If it isn't, the style will lack any element of substance.
FogBlueInSanFran
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The bigger picture issue, brought up by others, is that we couldn't seem to unlock a team that put ten behind the ball.
This was a constant problem last season -- our failure being attributed to our lack of width among other things -- but I don't understand why we would play a possession-oriented, dink-around-the-box kind of football in these circumstances.
Knowing exactly what the stadium would be like, the momentum Cardiff would get from their fans from the get-go, the priority perhaps should have been killing off the crowd early by attacking immediately.
Why wouldn't we run out Negredo instead of Aguero -- a guy who loves to shoot anytime, anywhere, and loves to get in the box? Then fire balls into the box like artillery shells? We aren't talking a world-class keeper here. We could get a deflection, or win corners. Firing in from outside the box makes the defense unpack to come to you to defend against the shot, in theory.
It wasn't much of a surprise that our first came on a 25-yard strike. We all laugh how supporters scream "SHOOT!!!" anytime anyone has possession uncontested from 30 yards or less out in front of goal but to me this is what I'd like to see against squads who fill the penalty area. Cardiff certainly executed well, and I realize tactics like this may open us up and perhaps we wanted to protect our second string CBs. But, again, if we can't figure out how to unlock this simple park-the-bus defence, every side poorer on paper than Swans is going to employ it.
This was a constant problem last season -- our failure being attributed to our lack of width among other things -- but I don't understand why we would play a possession-oriented, dink-around-the-box kind of football in these circumstances.
Knowing exactly what the stadium would be like, the momentum Cardiff would get from their fans from the get-go, the priority perhaps should have been killing off the crowd early by attacking immediately.
Why wouldn't we run out Negredo instead of Aguero -- a guy who loves to shoot anytime, anywhere, and loves to get in the box? Then fire balls into the box like artillery shells? We aren't talking a world-class keeper here. We could get a deflection, or win corners. Firing in from outside the box makes the defense unpack to come to you to defend against the shot, in theory.
It wasn't much of a surprise that our first came on a 25-yard strike. We all laugh how supporters scream "SHOOT!!!" anytime anyone has possession uncontested from 30 yards or less out in front of goal but to me this is what I'd like to see against squads who fill the penalty area. Cardiff certainly executed well, and I realize tactics like this may open us up and perhaps we wanted to protect our second string CBs. But, again, if we can't figure out how to unlock this simple park-the-bus defence, every side poorer on paper than Swans is going to employ it.