Derby day trains

SWP COME HOME!! said:
Monday to Friday yeah? Every weekend off?

Your frustration at the state of the railway is shared by most (if not all) of the staff who work on it. However questioning the workforce for not working their days off at the weekend is so wide of the mark it’s untrue.

The railway is always recruiting so if you think you can fix the issue so easily then get involved, be educational for you to see what it’s actually like.
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They should be rostered in to work so that 7 days a week are covered, hell they can't even cover the days in the week when they are supposed to turn up to provide a service.

If the rail service employed me at my age then there really would be something up with them.
 
mexico1970 said:
They should be rostered in to work so that 7 days a week are covered, hell they can't even cover the days in the week when they are supposed to turn up to provide a service.

If the rail service employed me at my age then there really would be something up with them.
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I can't speak for others. I was involved in negotiations where new contracts Sundays became part of the working week. The drivers have done the same.

It will take a few years to fully staff and have just agreed a new deal for Sunday working volunteers which should cover the gap.As it is new employees contracts to the business an incentive they get for working contractual 'long weekend' of 6 days off every 9 weeks.

The railways do run 363 days a year and we agreed the changes to reflect this. There's a hell of a lot more to do and let's see how we go on when the unions meet the DFT next month where the plans for GBR will be given to us.
 
TinFoilHat said:
I can't speak for others. I was involved in negotiations where new contracts Sundays became part of the working week. The drivers have done the same.

It will take a few years to fully staff and have just agreed a new deal for Sunday working volunteers which should cover the gap.As it is new employees contracts to the business an incentive they get for working contractual 'long weekend' of 6 days off every 9 weeks.

The railways do run 363 days a year and we agreed the changes to reflect this. There's a hell of a lot more to do and let's see how we go on when the unions meet the DFT next month where the plans for GBR will be given to us.
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Let's hope we get it sorted mate for the sake of everyone, I hope you understand that I am not at the stage of going to my front door banging pans with the neighbours just yet :)
 
Northwest and Manchester found ot be worst in UK for cancelled trains with 3 stations in top 5 and Victoria the worst in country......needs sorting and its is week days and weekends. My son and 1000s of other students cannot get to college uni (Ive had to drive him loads of times when trains cancelled)....people are losing jobs and economy suffering...ive cancelled loads of trips into Manchester due to cancelled train....UNION and drivers need to put public first and other workers trying to earn a living....need to sort this as wearing very thin.... no sympathy at all after ferking years of a totally shite train service!
 
BELFAST_BLUE_BOY said:
Northwest and Manchester found ot be worst in UK for cancelled trains with 3 stations in top 5 and Victoria the worst in country......needs sorting and its is week days and weekends. My son and 1000s of other students cannot get to college uni (Ive had to drive him loads of times when trains cancelled)....people are losing jobs and economy suffering...ive cancelled loads of trips into Manchester due to cancelled train....UNION and drivers need to put public first and other workers trying to earn a living....need to sort this as wearing very thin.... no sympathy at all after ferking years of a totally shite train service!
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The union’s job is, primarily, to work in the interests of its members, not the public. And rightly so.
 
mexico1970 said:
Companies amend terms and conditions all of the time. this seems like a case of that's what they should do so that Sunday isn't their day off.
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I've never worked on the railways but I always assumed it was like any other shift work where different people get different days off.

Seems idiotic to me to have an entire industry where nobody is contracted to work on Sundays.

Again, it's not the drivers fault though, it's another example of industrial scale incompetence from the operating companies.
 
BELFAST_BLUE_BOY said:
Northwest and Manchester found ot be worst in UK for cancelled trains with 3 stations in top 5 and Victoria the worst in country......needs sorting and its is week days and weekends. My son and 1000s of other students cannot get to college uni (Ive had to drive him loads of times when trains cancelled)....people are losing jobs and economy suffering...ive cancelled loads of trips into Manchester due to cancelled train....UNION and drivers need to put public first and other workers trying to earn a living....need to sort this as wearing very thin.... no sympathy at all after ferking years of a totally shite train service!
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I don't think you understand what a trade union is.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
I've never worked on the railways but I always assumed it was like any other shift work where different people get different days off.

Seems idiotic to me to have an entire industry where nobody is contracted to work on Sundays.

Again, it's not the drivers fault though, it's another example of industrial scale incompetence from the operating companies.
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None of this explains the cancellations all through the week and Saturday too.
 
I cant take my dad on the Wilmslow train to the match now.I cant put a 85 year old through the shit show that is rammed or cancelled trains for what should be a 20 minute ride.
Took my daughter to spurs and vowed never to subject a family member to those two journeys ever again.
 
I live on the Crewe line (Sandbach) and it's getting more and more ridiculous trying to get to and from Sunday and night games. I'm a reasonably healthy guy (just got over two fractured hips) in my mid 70's and in my 62nd year of watching City but thinking more and more of not renewing my season ticket next trime. It's just getting too much of a pain in the arse.
 
TinFoilHat said:
I can't speak for others. I was involved in negotiations where new contracts Sundays became part of the working week. The drivers have done the same.

It will take a few years to fully staff and have just agreed a new deal for Sunday working volunteers which should cover the gap.As it is new employees contracts to the business an incentive they get for working contractual 'long weekend' of 6 days off every 9 weeks.

The railways do run 363 days a year and we agreed the changes to reflect this. There's a hell of a lot more to do and let's see how we go on when the unions meet the DFT next month where the plans for GBR will be given to us.
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Nationalise as a not for profit single entity !!

Bring all elements under one organisation.

Re invest all profits into the services,staffing and infrastructure of British Rail Transport.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
I've never worked on the railways but I always assumed it was like any other shift work where different people get different days off.

Seems idiotic to me to have an entire industry where nobody is contracted to work on Sundays.

Again, it's not the drivers fault though, it's another example of industrial scale incompetence from the operating companies.
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Madness isn't it? I know in the days before my time, the Newspaper industry was a very different beast that the unions ran totally.

But in my time at The Mirror Group, (Maxwell days) we were contracted to work 24/7 over 364 days of the year. Christmas Eve (nights) and Christmas Day (days) was the only guaranteed shifts off. So if on nights you got the Eve off, but would be in Christmas night to print Boxing Day papers If your rota fell on New Years Eve, you worked NYE.
None of these shifts would be for anything other than regular rates. Which I admit were still excellent at the time.

You knew this before you took the job, and if working most Saturday nights (Obviously the busiest one for the Sunday papers) wasn't for you, look elsewhere.
 
mcfcinprague said:
I live on the Crewe line (Sandbach) and it's getting more and more ridiculous trying to get to and from Sunday and night games. I'm a reasonably healthy guy (just got over two fractured hips) in my mid 70's and in my 62nd year of watching City but thinking more and more of not renewing my season ticket next trime. It's just getting too much of a pain in the arse.
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I'm with you on this its giving me sleepless nights been a season ticket holder for a very long time, feel terribly guilty for not going to a game ( Everton) time & travel are just impossible to negotiate then there's parking, at 63 young yes I know but I think my time is sadly coming to an end being a season ticket holder, will I give them up now that's the question.
 
The train was cancelled last night from Eccles to Mauldeth Road. They didn’t have a driver. Lol!

The nex train, if there was a driver, was an hour later.

Rather than wait on the platform for an hour, I got an Uber taxi which cost me £25.

The trains will and always have been shite in this country. No investment, trade unions, and train drivers who do what they want.
 
jrb said:
The train was cancelled last night from Eccles to Mauldeth Road. They didn’t have a driver. Lol!

The nex train, if there was a driver, was an hour later.

Rather than wait on the platform for an hour, I got an Uber taxi which cost me £25.

The trains will and always have been shite in this country. No investment, trade unions, and train drivers who do what they want.
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Did the Daily Mail tell you that?

You know sooooo much about the railway industry....

How about some 'football fans' don't assault the Traincrew because they've had a few too many and think they can act like cunts on public transport. Which occured last night on 4 different trains at the station I was working from last night?
 
Don’t see what that’s got to do with unions holding the public to ransom so their members can have easier and easier working conditions.

Shop workers get assaulted in their droves every day but they don’t have the option of playing the bone idle card and going on strike
 
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