Derby Pre Match thread

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GX Blue said:
Both teams will score.
Just hope we score more.
We are so open. Bournemouth and Newcastle both had 4/5 chances that should never have been allowed.
We need to be so much better as a unit defensively and also stop giving the ball away so easily.
Anyone think Dave may be back? He's had a nasty knock but he's not pulled a muscle so maybe after 2 weeks rest he could be a surprise starter??
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I have been told that silva 100% will not be back for the derby.
 
The loss of Aguero and Silva is huge, our key striker, and our most creative player, both missing. It's not just that Aguero is our best striker, it's the TYPE of striker he is, the exact type that Smalling, and particularly, Jones have nightmares about. Give them a Wilfried Bony style of player all day, but a short, stocky, tricky, quick player with excellent movement will tie them up in knots. Remove the creative hub from behind the striker too and it makes their job, defensively, a shit load easier than it should have been. One thing is almost for certain, United will score. We haven't kept a clean sheet in any of our last 7 games, and that's included games against West Ham, Newcastle, Sunderland and Bournemouth. We need 2 as a minimum to win, and possibly 3. We are more than capable of scoring, we've scored in all 12 games this season, in all competitions, and we've scored 11 in the last 2 league games, so up front isn't our issue.

I suspect we'll bring Kompany back in, probably in place of Otamendi, but assuming Kolarov isn't going to be fit I think we'll likely go with the same lineup otherwise.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Fear the worst, hoping for the best.

The one thing in our favour will be them not getting back from Moscow until Thursday afternoon.

We are wide open on De Bruyne's side at present and would prefer to see Sterling back out wide and KDB in the No.10 role.

They are not on our level but you can only beat what is in front of you and we are two genuine world class players down and a makeshift left-back.

Personally, I would drop Bony as Herrera has plenty of movement and we will need an extra pair of legs to carry Yaya.

Turtle played Jones and Smalling at Everton and they were much more comfortable taking it in turns to mark Lukaku, who has a similar physical presence to Wilf.

United's defence struggles with pace in behind and believe Navas and Sterling can help in this regard.

We look shite at set-pieces, however, and that is the real concern in terms of conceding.

A win would would be beautiful, as always, but think we will need three goals to get anywhere near achieving one.

Turtle will play tight and counter so a draw might be more likely.

Will go 2-2 or a 3-1/2 loss.

Feel free to bookmark and gladly take the piss Sunday night.
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Why should we carry yaya at all?,they targeted him last game and will again,the 2 ferns would be better imo
 
frasermcfc said:
If Toure is fit, he will play. That's just a fact
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I'm certain he'll play, it's just whether he plays as part of a midfield two or three.

Knowing Pellegrini, I assume it will be a two (the same starting XI as Saturday, but with Kompany replacing Otamendi, barring any further injuries on Wednesday).
 
warpig said:
It allows Sagna to play right back. I think the pace will be a few gAmes to soon to start with Zabba.
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I was happy with Sagna left and Zab right on Saturday. Don’t think Sagna did anything wrong really. He's a very good defender and I feel for an away match we don’t always need to have every offensive player on the pitch. I would leave Kola out of this one.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Fear the worst, hoping for the best.

The one thing in our favour will be them not getting back from Moscow until Thursday afternoon.

We are wide open on De Bruyne's side at present and would prefer to see Sterling back out wide and KDB in the No.10 role.

They are not on our level but you can only beat what is in front of you and we are two genuine world class players down and a makeshift left-back.

Personally, I would drop Bony as Herrera has plenty of movement and we will need an extra pair of legs to carry Yaya.

Turtle played Jones and Smalling at Everton and they were much more comfortable taking it in turns to mark Lukaku, who has a similar physical presence to Wilf.

United's defence struggles with pace in behind and believe Navas and Sterling can help in this regard.

We look shite at set-pieces, however, and that is the real concern in terms of conceding.

A win would would be beautiful, as always, but think we will need three goals to get anywhere near achieving one.

Turtle will play tight and counter so a draw might be more likely.

Will go 2-2 or a 3-1/2 loss.

Feel free to bookmark and gladly take the piss Sunday night.
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I feel the same mate, we're far too open, and I can't see how we can set up that accommodates Yaya. Play him as the no10 and he doesn't get involved, play him deeper and he'll not do his defensive duties.

Think a draw would be a great result. But with our injuries I'm not sure if we'll manage it.
 
karen7 said:
Why should we carry yaya at all?,they targeted him last game and will again,the 2 ferns would be better imo
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You won't get any argument from me, was just factoring Pellegrini not pulling any other surprises out of the hat.

I would have Yaya on the bench from the off and wish Delph was fit so we could partner him up with the two Ferns.

Even Bournemouth were running off the back of Yaya at the weekend.

In addition, the recent Spurs debacle reminded me so much of the United defeat last season?

Yaya was awful at White Hart Lane, gifted possession away so many times even when we were on top in the first half.

We go into this United game in a similar position to the last one, them having incentive to move above us.

This isn't about United being world beaters, it's about them having more stability at this time.

If Manuel turns up with his usual we'll score more than you, we could be in for a rude awakening.

It's rughead's 30th this weekend and they are writing the headlines as we speak.

We don't need to hand this United team any more conviction or momentum at this time.
 
Can't believe so many are worried about United, we'de have to play shit to lose to them.
 
After beating Sevilla and the Filth, how many of you lot will be fretting about Crystal Palace?

The OP, Mr Johnsonontheleft, "hopes" KDB "steps up"...

As far as I am concerned, he has already "stepped up"...

JJ
 
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tolmie's hairdoo said:
Gotta love those quotes from Turtle.

"We have to be more consistent, so next week when we win against City we can say 'okay, now we can think about title aspirations'"

Team talk done right there, Manuel.
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He said something similar before they played Arsenal, ie when not if they would win. Like most rags these days, they get a half decent result and they get a bit giddy.
 
wagonman said:
After beating Sevilla and the Filth, how many of you lot will be fretting about Crystal Palace?

The OP, Mr Johnsonontheleft, "hopes" KDB "steps up"...

As far as I am concerned, he has already "stepped up"...

JJ
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yep.
its not KDB that needs to step up..... its the rest of our midfield who allowed bournemouth to carry the ball in a measured fashion from their back four, through our midfield ,and build attacks almost at will
 
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