MCFC BOB
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Re: Derek
Click on the pictures.Markt85 said:
Derek
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Lucky Toma
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Re: Derek
What a load of hackneyed manipulative wank this was.
Sixth-form sentimental shite and people have actually bought into it!
What a load of hackneyed manipulative wank this was.
Sixth-form sentimental shite and people have actually bought into it!
Swales lives
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Re: Derek
Agree. Haven't watched last night's, I will do cos I've seen the others. I gave it a chance and became less ann less convinced the more I watched. Gervais is better when he's snarling - playing himself. Him being caring and 'acting' doesn't wash with me, the faux-sentimentality of the series leaves me nauseous, rather than touched. I don't mind Gervais, but "Derek" is a poor and contrived vehicle. Poor.
Lucky Toma said:
Agree. Haven't watched last night's, I will do cos I've seen the others. I gave it a chance and became less ann less convinced the more I watched. Gervais is better when he's snarling - playing himself. Him being caring and 'acting' doesn't wash with me, the faux-sentimentality of the series leaves me nauseous, rather than touched. I don't mind Gervais, but "Derek" is a poor and contrived vehicle. Poor.
Lucky Toma
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Re: Derek
Contrived is the perfect word for it mate.
Some of the two-dimensional characters who appeared (the woman only interested in her mother's ring and Hannah's school friend in particular) were shockingly conceived and only there for the moralistic pay-off. They might as well have twirled moustaches and capes.
It was impossible to feel any kind of warmness towards the main protagonist because I couldnt see past Gervais and his deluded colossal ego.
Furthermore the great sit-com characters evoked emotion from the viewer by their actions - it developed naturally through fantastic writing and acting.
Derek required every other character to tell the viewer over and fucking over how wonderful, kind and nice he was.
If the viewer needs to be told this (it happened about ten times in half an hour last night) then the writer has failed miserably.
Gervais also elicits cheap sentimental value from preaching about how ace and lovely old people are.
Well if they are so ace and wonderful how about pushing them front and centre instead of using them merely as background fodder.
Imagine a similar programme preaching about how wonderful an ethnic minority is then shoving them into the background and only giving significant parts to white actors?
Last night's episode is well worth watching SL because it's so painfully shit. The way a new character is introduced from nowehere simply for a paint-by-numbers 'sentimental' ending.
Gervais may as well have stuck a puppy playing with a ball on the screen for half an hour such is the idiocy of people falling for such cheap and easy pulling of their heart-strings.
Swales lives said:
Contrived is the perfect word for it mate.
Some of the two-dimensional characters who appeared (the woman only interested in her mother's ring and Hannah's school friend in particular) were shockingly conceived and only there for the moralistic pay-off. They might as well have twirled moustaches and capes.
It was impossible to feel any kind of warmness towards the main protagonist because I couldnt see past Gervais and his deluded colossal ego.
Furthermore the great sit-com characters evoked emotion from the viewer by their actions - it developed naturally through fantastic writing and acting.
Derek required every other character to tell the viewer over and fucking over how wonderful, kind and nice he was.
If the viewer needs to be told this (it happened about ten times in half an hour last night) then the writer has failed miserably.
Gervais also elicits cheap sentimental value from preaching about how ace and lovely old people are.
Well if they are so ace and wonderful how about pushing them front and centre instead of using them merely as background fodder.
Imagine a similar programme preaching about how wonderful an ethnic minority is then shoving them into the background and only giving significant parts to white actors?
Last night's episode is well worth watching SL because it's so painfully shit. The way a new character is introduced from nowehere simply for a paint-by-numbers 'sentimental' ending.
Gervais may as well have stuck a puppy playing with a ball on the screen for half an hour such is the idiocy of people falling for such cheap and easy pulling of their heart-strings.
malg
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Re: Derek
I quite liked the programme, but last nights episode was shockingly bad. Schmaltzy doesn't do it justice. It looked like they'd tried to squash a whole series into one episode - basically the aim was to get as many people crying as possible.Lucky Toma said:
sergiokun
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Re: Derek
Derek has been shite recently
Derek has been shite recently
Swales lives
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Re: Derek
I'll catch it over the next few nights, you're right about the peripheral characters and about how 'ace' old people are. Last week some lad was in doing Community Service - he'd stolen a pair of trainers in the riots, but it turns out that he wasn't a bad lad, he 'got' old people, he had respeck for the old (hey they fought in real wars), he even did a rap about how great they are.
FFS talk about over-egging the whole premise.
Lucky Toma said:
I'll catch it over the next few nights, you're right about the peripheral characters and about how 'ace' old people are. Last week some lad was in doing Community Service - he'd stolen a pair of trainers in the riots, but it turns out that he wasn't a bad lad, he 'got' old people, he had respeck for the old (hey they fought in real wars), he even did a rap about how great they are.
FFS talk about over-egging the whole premise.