Did we really get it wrong?

[Anonymous]

Switch the manager from MP to Mancini and I know which side of this arguement you'd be falling on.

It's a shame you have to fall back onto this (as you did last night). I've no beef with your opinion, and I don't think those who are complaining are rags or spoiled. However I understand why others are saying that.

Personally I think this discussion has fuck all to do with people's wider views of Pellegrini/Mancini. That's why there's plenty of those who don't rate Pellegrini saying this isn't a big deal, and plenty of those who do rate him saying it is a big deal.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

One more thing .... Neur's quotes in Germany are pretty illuminating. Seems all the Bayern players were not aware that one more goal would send City through. Neur himself was but others were still attacking in the last five minutes of the game because they thought there was no risk.

What's your point? Had they known they would have defended better, or had we known we'd have scored more?

My point is simply that if there was confusion amongst the City ranks about how many goals saw them top, then the same confusion existed within the Bayern Munich ranks. Hopefully that'll make those Blues who feel like it was a bad typical City moment realise that it wasn't. The confusion was mainly due to the complex nature of the various result/permutations. That doesn't mitigate our bench (or the Bayern bench) not knowing that another goal saw us through, but it does at least show that the mistake wasn't one exclusive to City and our players/staff.

So they were as bad as us? Brilliant. If several thousand armchairs knew it you'd think the paid ones would. Speaking of which I'm off to get some bills paid by knowing what I'm doing ;-)

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

It seems to me that people fall into three categories in relation to this: those that think it's a big deal, those that don't and those that were in the ground pointing out to other blues that 4-2 was enough to finish top of the group and those other fans not believing them.

The last category are definitely the biggest blues and deserve a lot more recognition imo.

Completely disagree.

The biggest blues are not those who went on a booze trip to Munich with a dead rubber of a football match thrown in.

The biggest blues are without doubt the ones who roared their support for the team from their armchairs and sofas even when their wives were saying "it's 2=0 already why are you bothering? They'll lose and you'll be in a bad mood all night". Under great stress, they stayed true to the end.

They deserve the greatest recognition by far, and deserve to be bought beer.

Sorry, but I beg to differ. Fact is that if you watched it on the telly you're a c***!

Well said, mate.<br /><br />-- 12 Dec 2013, 08:58 --<br /><br />

Were the Bayern fans singing "watching eastenders would be better than this?"

I can't comment on this as my German's a bit rusty.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Switch the manager from MP to Mancini and I know which side of this arguement you'd be falling on.

It's a shame you have to fall back onto this (as you did last night). I've no beef with your opinion, and I don't think those who are complaining are rags or spoiled. However I understand why others are saying that.

Personally I think this discussion has fuck all to do with people's wider views of Pellegrini/Mancini. That's why there's plenty of those who don't rate Pellegrini saying this isn't a big deal, and plenty of those who do rate him saying it is a big deal.

From what I can see the 5/6 staunchest Mancini outers are surprisingly not arsed one bit about this story....

Edit: I should actually say I've seen it from the other side too; there are a few on here that yearn for Mancini and have used this as a stick to beat MP.

I'm leaving it here to be honest, the thread is not a good one for BM in my opinion. I'm going to ask one final question though to all those superior blues; Would you have been happier to take the win and the three points to finish second, or, if the manager had known what was needed and went all out to get another goal in the last ten minutes but we ended up drawing? I know what my answer is and it's not even close.

 

[Anonymous]

What's your point? Had they known they would have defended better, or had we known we'd have scored more?

My point is simply that if there was confusion amongst the City ranks about how many goals saw them top, then the same confusion existed within the Bayern Munich ranks. Hopefully that'll make those Blues who feel like it was a bad typical City moment realise that it wasn't. The confusion was mainly due to the complex nature of the various result/permutations. That doesn't mitigate our bench (or the Bayern bench) not knowing that another goal saw us through, but it does at least show that the mistake wasn't one exclusive to City and our players/staff.

So they were as bad as us? Brilliant. If several thousand armchairs knew it you'd think the paid ones would. Speaking of which I'm off to get some bills paid by knowing what I'm doing ;-)

I suspect what happened is that neither benches discussed with their players before the match or at half time, what scores meant what, because - well, because everyone assumed City would get spanked.

I've been thinking about something else this morning. I suspect one of the main reasons I'm not that bothered is because the French commentators were also under the impression that City needed to win by 3 clear goals. So throughout the match at no point did top spot seem imminent. If I'd known after Milner's goal that one more would've seen us top, I may well have been screaming for Aguero, and I may well have at the end of the game been pissed off. Because I was always under the impression we needed to win by three clear goals, by the time it was clarified that we only needed one more, we'd already won and I'd already sat through the last ten minutes where I was simply praying that we got to the final whistle with the victory intact. Hence it just doesn't seem to matter to me.

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

69 pages. fuck me can we just move on and let it go?

 

[Anonymous]

Pellegrini's press conference today is going to be standing room only, that's for sure.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I'm leaving it here to be honest, the thread is not a good one for BM in my opinion. I'm going to ask one final question though to all those superior blues; Would you have been happier to take the win and the three points to finish second, or, if the manager had known what was needed and went all out to get another goal in the last ten minutes but we ended up drawing? I know what my answer is and it's not even close.

The former, no danger.

Thanks for your kind words about me being superior, but I prefer the term "super" as it's a lot less elitist.

 

[jay_mcfc]

I've been thinking about something else this morning. I suspect one of the main reasons I'm not that bothered is because the French commentators were also under the impression that City needed to win by 3 clear goals. So throughout the match at no point did top spot seem imminent. If I'd known after Milner's goal that one more would've seen us top, I may well have been screaming for Aguero, and I may well have at the end of the game been pissed off. Because I was always under the impression we needed to win by three clear goals, by the time it was clarified that we only needed one more, we'd already won and I'd already sat through the last ten minutes where I was simply praying that we got to the final whistle with the victory intact. Hence it just doesn't seem to matter to me.

To be honest that's fair enough. I only knew because the SKY commentators told us and then it was weird watching those last 20 minutes. Like I said I sent a message to a mate wondering what was happening and why we weren't trying to get another. Still, I wasn't that unhappy until I realised it was actually a cock up. No-one is suggesting we would have scored another or that it is easy to put 4 past Bayern. What we are saying is it was a cock up that prevented us from having the opportunity to at least attempt it.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

I don't think anyone's had a go at the gaffer tbh,it was a sensational result and he deserves heaps of praise,I'm not even bothered abt him not bringing Sergio on
I just think he should of known or been briefed on the scoreline permatations of finishing top,and also should of been kept away from the second post matched interview

And let's not kid ourselves,pidge is right this thread would be twice the size had this been the rags.