Discontent that will end the Tory Govt is coming

franksinatra said:
And Rolls Royce just agreed a 17.6% payrise (10% plus one off payment).
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And a number of bus companies have agreed rises in the teens percents for drivers to avert strikes - which disappointed all those Army cooks and guys who work on the landing decks of aircraft carriers waving ping pong bats who were all looking forward to their first go at driving a double decker in their lives
 
bluethrunthru said:
Its also worth noting that in a widely reported poll 1 in 10 of 18 - 24 year olds thats a quarter of a million youngsters say they are never going to look for work. They will live at home - do the odd side hustle to get a bit of spending money and thats it.

Why would they do that you ask?

Because they know that basically they are in a society where education and work doesn't pay for every one. You get a degree and end up flipping burgers - you get a "good" job like a nurse or a social worker - they see strikes and how unrewarding that work is. They will never be able to own their own home - its hardly likely they will be able to rent and enjoy any sort of social life - they don't want to clean stations or streets so they are just opting out.
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The young have given up on capitalism, it's the reason why the Tories have done everything they can to make it as difficult as possible for them to vote.

Though Labour can't count on them either, at least not in the numbers one would expect.

Corbyn, for better or worse, sparked their imagination but Starmer doesn't. He'll get more of their support than Sunak, assuming Sunak takes the Tories into the next election, but many won't bother to turn out for a "things can only get better MK2" when they know they probably won't.

I suppose you'd call them Tory enablers.
 
bluethrunthru said:
And a number of bus companies have agreed rises in the teens percents for drivers to avert strikes - which disappointed all those Army cooks and guys who work on the landing decks of aircraft carriers waving ping pong bats who were all looking forward to their first go at driving a double decker in their lives
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We can't be havin...

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bluethrunthru said:
Its also worth noting that in a widely reported poll 1 in 10 of 18 - 24 year olds thats a quarter of a million youngsters say they are never going to look for work. They will live at home - do the odd side hustle to get a bit of spending money and thats it.

Why would they do that you ask?

Because they know that basically they are in a society where education and work doesn't pay for every one. You get a degree and end up flipping burgers - you get a "good" job like a nurse or a social worker - they see strikes and how unrewarding that work is. They will never be able to own their own home - its hardly likely they will be able to rent and enjoy any sort of social life - they don't want to clean stations or streets so they are just opting out.
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Bet the parents are over the moon:-)
 
BringBackSwales said:
The point about 20 years ago was the deficit in public sector pension schemes, which is resl but not included in any figures for national debt. It was two trillion pounds, it is now closer to three trillion. It’s getting bigger and it has to be paid for. Nobody can afford to pay for that, even the cunting rich
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How much of the deficit was due to the companies taking a pension holiday when returns were good and diverting the money to shareholders?

(Has the railways' pension fund still got all the art works they bought?)
 
Vic said:
How much of the deficit was due to the companies taking a pension holiday when returns were good and diverting the money to shareholders?

(Has the railways' pension fund still got all the art works they bought?)
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Fucking he’ll mate I don’t know every detail of every company. But the public sector pension deficit has nothing to do with shareholders, that’s the private sector, and yeah loads of them did horrible shit to private sector pension schemes like unwarranted employer contribution holidays etc
 
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