Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 2)

[Anonymous]

It's well known and called Situational leadership theory. MBA 101 these days.

I keep reading there's courses you can go on to learn how to be a good manager. I'll be sure to look one up if my managerial career ever begins to wane!

 

[moomba]

I am far less confident about the mental fortitude of the players.

My reply, or should I say, my own opinion on the mentality debate will no doubt spark another furious round of tongue lashings from the usual suspects so I'll refrain. Safe to say that no squad has 22/23 players with the same mentality. The job of a manager, any manager, is to identify which players are motivated by what, and then get about motivating them. If Pellegrini fails to do that, then IMO he hasn't done his job. In the modern game you're not going to get a squad of players all with the right mentality ...

In many respects the more naturally gifted the player, the less he's likely to listen to a manager and thus the more he actually needs managing on a day to day basis.

I'm not sure if that makes sense but it makes sense in my head!

It does make sense, although would there not be an argument to suggest that these are players that aren't good enough (technically and mentally) for where we want to be.

 

[Anonymous]

I am far less confident about the mental fortitude of the players.

My reply, or should I say, my own opinion on the mentality debate will no doubt spark another furious round of tongue lashings from the usual suspects so I'll refrain. Safe to say that no squad has 22/23 players with the same mentality. The job of a manager, any manager, is to identify which players are motivated by what, and then get about motivating them. If Pellegrini fails to do that, then IMO he hasn't done his job. In the modern game you're not going to get a squad of players all with the right mentality ...

In many respects the more naturally gifted the player, the less he's likely to listen to a manager and thus the more he actually needs managing on a day to day basis.

I'm not sure if that makes sense but it makes sense in my head!

It's well known and called Situational leadership theory. MBA 101 these days.

Good old Blanchard!

S1, S2, S3, S4 - D1, D2, D3, D4...

Those were the days. Actually they weren't, I fucking hated managing people. Fucking knob heads the lot of them.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

It's well known and called Situational leadership theory. MBA 101 these days.

I keep reading there's courses you can go on to learn how to be a good manager. I'll be sure to look one up if my managerial career ever begins to wane!

I never needed it but it was free after 20 years of managing in both civil and military environments ;-)

 

[OB1]

I am far less confident about the mental fortitude of the players.

My reply, or should I say, my own opinion on the mentality debate will no doubt spark another furious round of tongue lashings from the usual suspects so I'll refrain. Safe to say that no squad has 22/23 players with the same mentality. The job of a manager, any manager, is to identify which players are motivated by what, and then get about motivating them. If Pellegrini fails to do that, then IMO he hasn't done his job. In the modern game you're not going to get a squad of players all with the right mentality ...

In many respects the more naturally gifted the player, the less he's likely to listen to a manager and thus the more he actually needs managing on a day to day basis.

I'm not sure if that makes sense but it makes sense in my head!

I should perhaps have said some players and I agree that it is the manager's job to sort that out but I remain worried about where some of their heads are at.

 

[Anonymous]

It's well known and called Situational leadership theory. MBA 101 these days.

I keep reading there's courses you can go on to learn how to be a good manager. I'll be sure to look one up if my managerial career ever begins to wane!

I never needed it but it was free after 20 years of managing in both civil and military environments ;-)

Christ I kind of hope my managerial career isn't 20 years long! I'm looking at becoming the managed rather than the manager and I'm only 10 years in ...

 

[Gelsons Dad]

My reply, or should I say, my own opinion on the mentality debate will no doubt spark another furious round of tongue lashings from the usual suspects so I'll refrain. Safe to say that no squad has 22/23 players with the same mentality. The job of a manager, any manager, is to identify which players are motivated by what, and then get about motivating them. If Pellegrini fails to do that, then IMO he hasn't done his job. In the modern game you're not going to get a squad of players all with the right mentality ...

In many respects the more naturally gifted the player, the less he's likely to listen to a manager and thus the more he actually needs managing on a day to day basis.

I'm not sure if that makes sense but it makes sense in my head!

It's well known and called Situational leadership theory. MBA 101 these days.

Good old Blanchard!

S1, S2, S3, S4 - D1, D2, D3, D4...

Those were the days. Actually they weren't, I fucking hated managing people. Fucking knob heads the lot of them.

Yep, in those terms we have a number of S3/M3/D3 s in the squad and the task is to move them to 4s<br /><br />-- Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:39 pm --<br /><br />

I keep reading there's courses you can go on to learn how to be a good manager. I'll be sure to look one up if my managerial career ever begins to wane!

I never needed it but it was free after 20 years of managing in both civil and military environments ;-)

Christ I kind of hope my managerial career isn't 20 years long! I'm looking at becoming the managed rather than the manager and I'm only 10 years in ...

Retirement is a long and boring holiday.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

I think it'll be typical city if City are the first team in Pellegrini's managerial career to not be able to play the way he expects them to ... ;)

The players worry me far more than the manager, at this point.

Ditto. The lack of pace is one thing, but the lack of desire is something else. Nasri, Dzeko, Ya Ya, even Spanish Dave, I can't recall when I last saw any of them give their all for the cause in a game. Coasters and dilettantes we seem to have by the shedload

Agree with all of that
They even seem worse than last season
Its amazing to see mid table side players graft and run their bollocks off
Ours look like they can't wait to get off the pitch.

 

[pavelsrnicek]

I am far less confident about the mental fortitude of the players.

My reply, or should I say, my own opinion on the mentality debate will no doubt spark another furious round of tongue lashings from the usual suspects so I'll refrain. Safe to say that no squad has 22/23 players with the same mentality. The job of a manager, any manager, is to identify which players are motivated by what, and then get about motivating them. If Pellegrini fails to do that, then IMO he hasn't done his job. In the modern game you're not going to get a squad of players all with the right mentality ...

In many respects the more naturally gifted the player, the less he's likely to listen to a manager and thus the more he actually needs managing on a day to day basis.

I'm not sure if that makes sense but it makes sense in my head!

I should perhaps have said some players and I agree that it is the manager's job to sort that out but I remain worried about where some of their heads are at.

I know it's digressing a little but I wonder are we lacking in leaders on the park at present, VK apart? It may be that Mancini, previously, in moving on perceived troublemakers and Txiki trying to move on expensive players on big wages have left us without on pitch leaders, since we won the league de Jong, Kolo, Tevez and Barry have left, Micah has had constant injury issues and Lescott has been marginalised (and when he plays looks uncomfortable with a high line). We have some very good players but other than Kompany only Zabaleta and maybe Hart are vocal.

 

[Anonymous]

They even seem worse than last season

Fuck me will this disingenuous bollocks ever end.