Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 4)

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flb said:
BillyShears said:
flb said:
Be careful NQ, there's some on here would have you believe he turned water into wine with Villareal

Personally I think his ability to turn Mancini into dust at City was far more impressive than anything he did at Villareal ... ;)

Seriously though ... you should have a little more faith. Pellegrini's a top manager who is going to be very successful with City. His achievements at Villareal and Malaga are spectacular. It's why he's such a widely respected coach by not just pundits, but players and other managers within football.


Billy, I wouldn't go as far as spectacular, it would have been if he got some silverware- as has been pointed out Villareal were already a very good side before he pitched his tent.

There are plenty of nice guys who are popular with players and pundits- ask Harry Redknapp

It's all a bit underwhelming , we still struggle against teams that park the bus so in that respect it's déjà vue.Defensively with or without Vinny we are a shambles, Hart on the bench which for me is poor man management.Outside the top four beckons- we lost 4 away from home in the PL last season- we have already matched that after eleven games.

I hope it works Billy I really do, I'm just amused at the blind faith in a man who's won no cups or titles at his three previous clubs.

-- Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:08 pm --

Thenumber1blue said:
BillyShears said:
Personally I think his ability to turn Mancini into dust at City was far more impressive than anything he did at Villareal ... ;)

Seriously though ... you should have a little more faith. Pellegrini's a top manager who is going to be very successful with City. His achievements at Villareal and Malaga are spectacular. It's why he's such a widely respected coach by not just pundits, but players and other managers within football.
Oh come on ,he's had his 11 games now let's move on .We are disgustingly rich now ,we don't need a manager who's not won us everything by November anymore .Whats up with you !


He's had 17 games fella, virtually half a premier league season
Yeh but it's the 11 league games your complaining about fella,well 4 of them anyway.I find it embarrassing ,whether you like him,rate him, or not .When you think about the philosophy of calling for a new managers head after a handfull of games,it really is cringeworthy !

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/league-table.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matc ... table.html</a>

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MCC said:
We so missed a trick by not backing Bobby when we won the league, if we had backed him then with the signings he wanted, we would be laughing . instead we wet our knickers and are now paying the price.

Bullshit.
 
flb said:
Billy, I wouldn't go as far as spectacular, it would have been if he got some silverware- as has been pointed out Villareal were already a very good side before he pitched his tent.

True enough, had he won a trophy it would be even more impressive. I also agree Villareal were a good side when Pellegrini pitched his tent. He then turned them into a spectacular side. A side who along with Arsenal, at that time played the best football in Europe as well as making it effective. Really, it's not that I need to big up what Pellegrini has achieved. I just do it because of how much I rate the guy and how good his Villareal side were.

There are plenty of nice guys who are popular with players and pundits- ask Harry Redknapp

Idiot logic. Not much else I can say there mate.

It's all a bit underwhelming , we still struggle against teams that park the bus so in that respect it's déjà vue.

Yes definitely an element of deja vu away from home. But again, underwhelming? Beating the rags comfortably at home. Qualifying out of our CL group for the first time. Still in the title race. Playing the best attacking football we've played since the take over. And you're underwhelmed? That's tragic ...

Defensively with or without Vinny we are a shambles, Hart on the bench which for me is poor man management.Outside the top four beckons- we lost 4 away from home in the PL last season- we have already matched that after eleven games.

Outside the top 4 of beckons? Hahahahahahahahaha. It's been duly noted ... you're one of a small but very faithless bunch who seem to think the sky has fallen. On the flip side, when we do win the league in May, you'll enjoy a bit more than the rest of us because of how low your expectations were to begin with.

I hope it works Billy I really do, I'm just amused at the blind faith in a man who's won no cups or titles at his three previous clubs.

I don't with to be condescending, but really, "blind" are those who know nothing about Pellegrini other than what they've read on Bluemoon and seen in the last few months. "Blind" are those who try and shit on his achievements at Villareal without ever having watched his Villareal team. "Blind" are those who believe making irrational sweeping judgements about any manager after 11 games should be respected.

None of this precludes you from being fucked off at our away form btw. I am too. You should complain about it because it isn't good enough. But if you take your blindfold off, you'll see we're the best team in the league, playing the best football in the league, and are best equipped to win the league.
 
Ray78 said:
ballinio said:
I think I`ll go with what I see with my own eyes & make my own judgement , previous form may get you a job but its worth nothing after that.

If it was Mancini's first year in charge in another country then it would be wise to at least give him a season.

-- Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:59 pm --

NQCitizen said:
Ray78 said:
Erm he was struggling at Barcelona before Pellegrini signed him.

My point all along has been Pellegrini didn't sign him.

He did. Marcos Senna was already at Villareal.
Funny but even when Mancini arrived the football was not great ,boring and defensive was concensus, I could see what he was trying to do, could generally see what style he was trying to get us to play and believe it or not comfortable with it & patient being sure he would get it right & he did eventualy. I could understand his formations & subs , usually.With Pellegrini I`m` trying to be patient but I just don't understand anything he does and his body language is of a man who`s not sure himself. I think its a mistake & things may even get worse. I don't call for managers heads easily , 35years of watching City & theres only one manager who I couldn't stand & wanted out almost immediately & that's Stuart Pearce.
 
MCC said:
Ray78 said:
MCC said:
We so missed a trick by not backing Bobby when we won the league, if we had backed him then with the signings he wanted, we would be laughing . instead we wet our knickers and are now paying the price.

Bullshit.

So if we had not signed rvp, which bobby wanted, we would not have won the league?
But he was given the funds to sign Dzeko, Balotelli and Aguero

You cant buy everyone
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
MCC said:
Ray78 said:
Bullshit.

So if we had not signed rvp, which bobby wanted, we would not have won the league?
But he was given the funds to sign Dzeko, Balotelli and Aguero

You cant buy everyone

Yeah and he won the league and wanted to improve the team.
That transfer window was crucial and we ended up signing sinclair, garcia and rodwell. Were they bobbys first choice? Were they fuck.
 
Thenumber1blue said:
flb said:
BillyShears said:
Personally I think his ability to turn Mancini into dust at City was far more impressive than anything he did at Villareal ... ;)

Seriously though ... you should have a little more faith. Pellegrini's a top manager who is going to be very successful with City. His achievements at Villareal and Malaga are spectacular. It's why he's such a widely respected coach by not just pundits, but players and other managers within football.


Billy, I wouldn't go as far as spectacular, it would have been if he got some silverware- as has been pointed out Villareal were already a very good side before he pitched his tent.

There are plenty of nice guys who are popular with players and pundits- ask Harry Redknapp

It's all a bit underwhelming , we still struggle against teams that park the bus so in that respect it's déjà vue.Defensively with or without Vinny we are a shambles, Hart on the bench which for me is poor man management.Outside the top four beckons- we lost 4 away from home in the PL last season- we have already matched that after eleven games.

I hope it works Billy I really do, I'm just amused at the blind faith in a man who's won no cups or titles at his three previous clubs.

-- Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:08 pm --

Thenumber1blue said:
Oh come on ,he's had his 11 games now let's move on .We are disgustingly rich now ,we don't need a manager who's not won us everything by November anymore .Whats up with you !


He's had 17 games fella, virtually half a premier league season
Yeh but it's the 11 league games your complaining about fella,well 4 of them anyway.I find it embarrassing ,whether you like him,rate him, or not .When you think about the philosophy of calling for a new managers head after a handfull of games,it really is cringeworthy !

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/league-table.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matc ... table.html</a>

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All i see is a photoshopped Joe Hart on the link (LOL).

Funny here is oz the adds for head and shoulders are flying thick and fast since his demotion.

I turn them off now whenever I see them.
 
MCC said:
Ray78 said:
MCC said:
We so missed a trick by not backing Bobby when we won the league, if we had backed him then with the signings he wanted, we would be laughing . instead we wet our knickers and are now paying the price.

Bullshit.

So if we had not signed rvp, which bobby wanted, we would not have won the league?

No. Not with over £100m of striking talent on our books already.
 
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