Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 4)

[Anonymous]

A forum is for discussion and my opinion is and I pray I'm wrong is that Pellegrini will win nothing with us..

I know ... you've been saying it in various guises since the second weekend of the season.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Right again, Billy.

Disagree, Pelle messed it up imo.

I know: I saw your dissertation;-)

Look, Sunderland hardly got anywhere near our goal until they scored (go check your chalkboard) and they only scored because Milner was fouled. That allowed them to park the bus.

At least one of Dzeko, Aguero or Navas should have finished off very presentable chances. Kolarov should have managed to get something on target from 5 attempts, even if they were mostly from outside the box.

Admire your efforts but we didn't need a fucking midfield diamond, we needed a bit of clinical finishing.

Wrong. We needed a right back in position instead of one that was ball watching half way up the flank.
And for what its worth I'm surprised Lescott has got off lightly for not making a greater effort to cover the goal line when Panti was short sided leaving an open goal behind him.

 

[waspish]

A forum is for discussion and my opinion is and I pray I'm wrong is that Pellegrini will win nothing with us..

I know ... you've been saying it in various guises since the second weekend of the season.

On the 89th minute against QPR was you still sat in your seat urging us on? Because I was I didn't leave my seat or sulk I believed we still had a chance if we scored in the next 2 minutes! As I was at Wembley in 99 at 0-2 down! I "Support" our team at the ground on here is just my opinion..

 

[OB1]

Disagree, Pelle messed it up imo.

I know: I saw your dissertation;-)

Look, Sunderland hardly got anywhere near our goal until they scored (go check your chalkboard) and they only scored because Milner was fouled. That allowed them to park the bus.

At least one of Dzeko, Aguero or Navas should have finished off very presentable chances. Kolarov should have managed to get something on target from 5 attempts, even if they were mostly from outside the box.

Admire your efforts but we didn't need a fucking midfield diamond, we needed a bit of clinical finishing.

Wrong. We needed a right back in position instead of one that was ball watching half way up the flank.
And for what its worth I'm surprised Lescott has got off lightly for not making a greater effort to cover the goal line when Panti was short sided leaving an open goal behind him.

Never heard so much nonsense on the idea that Richards needed to be there when his more than capable team mate was there filling in for him. And Micah wasn't ball watching, he was tracking AJ and quite clearly started to drop off him once AJ went into his own half.

Real barrel scrapping to critcise the fact that one player has covered for another.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

I know: I saw your dissertation;-)

Look, Sunderland hardly got anywhere near our goal until they scored (go check your chalkboard) and they only scored because Milner was fouled. That allowed them to park the bus.

At least one of Dzeko, Aguero or Navas should have finished off very presentable chances. Kolarov should have managed to get something on target from 5 attempts, even if they were mostly from outside the box.

Admire your efforts but we didn't need a fucking midfield diamond, we needed a bit of clinical finishing.

Again, I disagree, I don't think many of our chances were clear cut, certainly not in the proportion that we've scored goals in other games.

Also think Sunderland were competitive and having too much space in that first half and were allowed to sit because they got a goal that we shouldn't have ended up in the position of conceding, regardless of the push.

Of course you disagree and no doubt nothing I say will change your mind. You can define the chances however you want but our players should be capable of nailing the odd half chance or difficult one.

Sunderland did have space but played only a handful of balls inside our final third before their goal. You can't blame the manager them getting the odd ball into our final third and you certainly can't blame him for Milner being shoved over; nor do you have any good grounds for thinking Milner couldn't have prevented Bardsley from getting that ball. So, frankly, your argument above just does not stand up, IMO.

I do respect your views but we do not agree here.

Sorry I meant push instead of goal at the end, have good grounds for thinking Milner couldn't have prevented it from happening? I think he could, but I see no tactical reason for that scenario panning out and it not being the right back in that position. Again it's something I think Pelle got wrong.

Yes our players are capable of burying a half chance but when they are really the only source of efforts the likelihood of us scoring them is much lower than creating a number of clear cut chances like we normally do, circumstances on the day meant we didn't score them but we did not score enough clear cut chances.

Whilst Sunderland hardly created any clear cut opportunities they were still a threat (moreso than us in that period 2bh) and had some decent possession, and our midfield was still overrun on occassions in that first half. Yes they nicked a goal but that's all a bottom side aims to do and we keep granting them those chances. I don't blame the manager for us conceding the odd chance, I blame him for setting us up in a way that I believe is not conducive to us playing and as a result defending in the most effective manner for us.

I believe the diamond would have worked better on sunday, we can agree to disagree.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

I know: I saw your dissertation;-)

Look, Sunderland hardly got anywhere near our goal until they scored (go check your chalkboard) and they only scored because Milner was fouled. That allowed them to park the bus.

At least one of Dzeko, Aguero or Navas should have finished off very presentable chances. Kolarov should have managed to get something on target from 5 attempts, even if they were mostly from outside the box.

Admire your efforts but we didn't need a fucking midfield diamond, we needed a bit of clinical finishing.

Wrong. We needed a right back in position instead of one that was ball watching half way up the flank.
And for what its worth I'm surprised Lescott has got off lightly for not making a greater effort to cover the goal line when Panti was short sided leaving an open goal behind him.

Never heard so much nonsense on the idea that Richards needed to be there when his more than capable team mate was there filling in for him. And Micah wasn't ball watching, he was tracking AJ and quite clearly started to drop off him once AJ went into his own half.

Real barrel scrapping to critcise the fact that one player has covered for another.

Fuckin bullshit mate. Have a look again.

 

[lancs blue]

Wrong. We needed a right back in position instead of one that was ball watching half way up the flank.
And for what its worth I'm surprised Lescott has got off lightly for not making a greater effort to cover the goal line when Panti was short sided leaving an open goal behind him.

Never heard so much nonsense on the idea that Richards needed to be there when his more than capable team mate was there filling in for him. And Micah wasn't ball watching, he was tracking AJ and quite clearly started to drop off him once AJ went into his own half.

Real barrel scrapping to critcise the fact that one player has covered for another.

Fuckin bullshit mate. Have a look again.

You need to have another look, go to the BBC iPlayer and watch MOTD2's coverage, stop it at 52.55, you'll see Richards tracking AJ back to the halfway line, AJ then turns and moves back towards our goal, Richards goes with him as the long ball goes over them and towards Bardsley and Milner. Richards has done nothing wrong and has no chance of doing anything about the goal.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Never heard so much nonsense on the idea that Richards needed to be there when his more than capable team mate was there filling in for him. And Micah wasn't ball watching, he was tracking AJ and quite clearly started to drop off him once AJ went into his own half.

Real barrel scrapping to critcise the fact that one player has covered for another.

Fuckin bullshit mate. Have a look again.

You need to have another look, go to the BBC iPlayer and watch MOTD2's coverage, stop it at 52.55, you'll see Richards tracking AJ back to the halfway line, AJ then turns and moves back towards our goal, Richards goes with him as the long ball goes over them and towards Bardsley and Milner. Richards has done nothing wrong and has no chance of doing anything about the goal.

Cheers LB. I've got it on sky+. I'll have a look in the morning mate.

 

[lancs blue]

Fuckin bullshit mate. Have a look again.

You need to have another look, go to the BBC iPlayer and watch MOTD2's coverage, stop it at 52.55, you'll see Richards tracking AJ back to the halfway line, AJ then turns and moves back towards our goal, Richards goes with him as the long ball goes over them and towards Bardsley and Milner. Richards has done nothing wrong and has no chance of doing anything about the goal.

Cheers LB. I've got it on sky+. I'll have a look in the morning mate.

Ok, no problem.

Watching the replay of the goal again I've no idea what Demichelis is doing, Kolarov, Lescott and Milner are all in a line and Demichelis has wandered about 10 yards ahead of them into no-mans land. If he held his position he would have had an even chance of intercepting Bardsley.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

I actually find it really funny now that people are still kidding themselves that were are having a better season and that Pellegrini has turned "he who shall not be named" into dust!! 6 away games-1,yes 1 fucking victory!!
Forgive me but did we have to be at the qpr game on 95 minutes to be allowed an opinion on Pellegrini?Or at Wembley in 99 at 2-0 down?
I'd just like to add that I was there till the end so that must mean I am allowed to comment.
If people keep trying to disregard what he who shall not be named did then his fan boys (me included) will keep coming on defending him. Let the vitriole continue because his trophy count overides any mud that gets slung about him by certain posters.Until Pellegrini proves otherwise and from what I have seen isn't going to happen then he will never be a patch on he who shall not be named
We can comment on Pellegrini because he is the current manager-a manager who is way out of his depth in this league.A manager who is simply a yes man to the Spanish pair of baffoons, a manager who will - in my opinion - win absolutely nothing with City,and a manager who looks fucking haunted by the task he has taken on.
Would I like him to be sacked? No not at all because I think he deserves longer to disprove my opinion otherwise however something tells me the WBA and Southampton games will tell me if he has learnt about tactics,formation going into tricky away games.