Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 4)

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BlueAnorak said:
kenzie115 said:
BlueAnorak said:
Refresh my memory. How many players did we buy during the window to replace the 1 who left.

When you say 1 are you referring to Tevez, Barry, Sinclair, Maicon or Kolo?

Plus one of the 5 was bought to replace Balotelli, even though he left in January.

My mistake - though only 2 of them performed to the level required on a regular enough basis (Tevez and Barry) and the Barry loan was self inflicted. We got Demichhels for Kolo (a very slight downgrade at the moment) that still means we are 2 better players up as Sinclair and Maicon were poor performers, Balotelli although a good player was a liability most of the time due to his indiscipline.
Denichelis a downgrade from Kolo,I fuckin despair !
 
Mike D said:
What Pellers is missing is something that Mancini had in his second season (and Whisky nose had throughout) the fight to win things. Being prepared to go toe to toe with those scrapping for their lives. Sadly there may be harmony in the dressing room now Mancini has gone but a shit teams comes up in our faces away from home its white flag waving time from us.

I will bite, Bullshit. The premier league was the only trophy he could of won after crashing out of the FA Cup, League cup and both European competitions. Underestimate Pellegrini at your peril.
 
BillyShears said:
BlueAnorak said:
Refresh my memory. How many players did we buy during the window to replace the 1 who left.

The point is simple mate ... you said last season that injuries disrupted it ... but this season you're saying injuries are not an excuse ... yet we've had similar injuries to key players as last season. I agree the quality of our squad is better with Fernandinho replacing Barry and Negredo replacing Balo. But this doesn't change our vulnerability to an injury to Vinny. Yes it's something which should've been addressed in the summer, and whether the club tried or not they failed. But the end result is the same as it was last season. No Vinny means the back line like porous.

Maybe they thought a fit Demichelis would be adequate cover, I don't think 3 games after an injury in his first training session is fair to judge him , especially as he was probably rushed back to cover Kompany. As it is apart from a few sloppy passes I've been quite impressed with him and his ability to turn defence into attack quickly something we've lacked in the past. That's not to say we don't need further strengthening in defence in January.
 
Mike D said:
What Pellers is missing is something that Mancini had in his second season (and Whisky nose had throughout) the fight to win things. Being prepared to go toe to toe with those scrapping for their lives. Sadly there may be harmony in the dressing room now Mancini has gone but a shit teams comes up in our faces away from home its white flag waving time from us.

I note that you said Mancini's second season but not third.
 
BillyShears said:
BlueAnorak said:
Refresh my memory. How many players did we buy during the window to replace the 1 who left.

The point is simple mate ... you said last season that injuries disrupted it ... but this season you're saying injuries are not an excuse ... yet we've had similar injuries to key players as last season. I agree the quality of our squad is better with Fernandinho replacing Barry and Negredo replacing Balo. But this doesn't change our vulnerability to an injury to Vinny. Yes it's something which should've been addressed in the summer, and whether the club tried or not they failed. But the end result is the same as it was last season. No Vinny means the back line like porous.

I think that some have a rather romanticised view of our defending under Mancini. Our back four often looked vulnerable and didn't we have a tendency not to stop crosses at source? What frequently saved us were the interventions of Kompany and Hart. If we had those two playing regularly in top form...

And for the record, my comment above is not any sort of dig at Mancini or a suggestion that he didn't do a lot of excellent work on our defending as a team.
 
Ray78 said:
Mike D said:
What Pellers is missing is something that Mancini had in his second season (and Whisky nose had throughout) the fight to win things. Being prepared to go toe to toe with those scrapping for their lives. Sadly there may be harmony in the dressing room now Mancini has gone but a shit teams comes up in our faces away from home its white flag waving time from us.

I will bite, Bullshit. The premier league was the only trophy he could of won after crashing out of the FA Cup, League cup and both European competitions. Underestimate Pellegrini at your peril.



Underestimate what? His lack of trophies ?
 
OB1 said:
BillyShears said:
BlueAnorak said:
Refresh my memory. How many players did we buy during the window to replace the 1 who left.

The point is simple mate ... you said last season that injuries disrupted it ... but this season you're saying injuries are not an excuse ... yet we've had similar injuries to key players as last season. I agree the quality of our squad is better with Fernandinho replacing Barry and Negredo replacing Balo. But this doesn't change our vulnerability to an injury to Vinny. Yes it's something which should've been addressed in the summer, and whether the club tried or not they failed. But the end result is the same as it was last season. No Vinny means the back line like porous.

I think that some have a rather romanticised view of our defending under Mancini. Our back four often looked vulnerable and didn't we have a tendency not to stop crosses at source? What frequently saved us were the interventions of Kompany and Hart. If we had those two playing regularly in top form...

And for the record, my comment above is not any sort of dig at Mancini or a suggestion that he didn't do a lot of excellent work on our defending as a team.

Best defensive record in the league 3 years in a row says all that is needed.
 
flb said:
Ray78 said:
Mike D said:
What Pellers is missing is something that Mancini had in his second season (and Whisky nose had throughout) the fight to win things. Being prepared to go toe to toe with those scrapping for their lives. Sadly there may be harmony in the dressing room now Mancini has gone but a shit teams comes up in our faces away from home its white flag waving time from us.

I will bite, Bullshit. The premier league was the only trophy he could of won and we nearly fucked that up after crashing out of the FA Cup, League cup and both European competitions. Underestimate Pellegrini at your peril.



Underestimate what? His lack of trophies ?

The quality of manager.
 
Ray78 said:
flb said:
Ray78 said:
I will bite, Bullshit. The premier league was the only trophy he could of won and we nearly fucked that up after crashing out of the FA Cup, League cup and both European competitions. Underestimate Pellegrini at your peril.



Underestimate what? His lack of trophies ?

The quality of manager.

And how do you judge that if not by success?
 
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