Discuss Pellegrini

We do not look good but a point is a point. Lets see how we look in the CL because a team like Bayern will have a cricket score against the current team as it is playing.
 
NipHolmes said:
hilts said:
NipHolmes said:
I made that thread before the Newcastle game.

You know full well I said that top 4 and progression in Europe was my requirement. However I believe we can win the league.

I'm not fussed what others think, remember last season when 40k sang Bobbys name. Some good that did. What counts is what the people upstairs think and right now I am sure they aren't propping the ceiling up with acroprops waiting for the sky to fall in. Instead they are probably waiting for next week which is a crucial time for us.

You do know that you get 3 points if you beat stoke or the rags don't you? can you please tell me how you came to the conclusion that pelligrini is a good manager but you think he picks the wrong players and system, you seem to have missed this point

Yes I know. But us beating the Rags means they dont get anything.

I've missed nothing. Pellegrini favours the 4-2-2-2, check his history. However Yaya imo simply does not fit this formation. Please tell me where Yaya should play provisionally in said formation?

The 4231 would have two box to box runners in Kilner and Fernandinho whilst playing Yaya in his best position. We would lose his deep passes forward but we would dominate more midfields and be very strong. The orblem then is that we have Aguero, Dzeko and Negredo all vying for one place in the team, hence why we play with two attackers imo.

-- Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:39 pm --

de niro said:
Rammy Blue said:
Sheikh Mansour is a fucking idiot?

rammy mate, me, you and half this forum know more about football than our owner. he will have been guided by the gruesome twosome.

On my life, I am utterly perplexed at what you've just wrote and so flabbergasted I feel that my sanity can only remain with logging off.

The gruesome twosome. Unbelievable.

P.S. Google them and see who many top clubs chased their appointments.

City has been known to turn wine into vinegar.
 
de niro said:
Rammy Blue said:
de niro said:
I am seriously pissing myself at the mancini outers, on here, in the dressing room and in the boardroom.

all fucking idiots.

Sheikh Mansour is a fucking idiot?

rammy mate, me, you and half this forum know more about football than our owner. he will have been guided by the gruesome twosome.

I know mate, only jesting.

Thing is though, Mancini had to go, of that there is no doubt. What we should be debating now and in weeks to come is whether Ferran and Txiki have dropped a bollock by appointing MP.

I must admit to being slightly mystified by his selections and tactics so far however due to the injuries I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
 
The cookie monster said:
de niro said:
put it this way we can't possibly get any worse.......can we?
I said the same after Cardiff
Then hull
Now stoke

Lets hold the trend doesn't continue next week.

Evening pal...I wonder how many people backed the wrong horse at the start of the season ???
Was not a good day bud
 
I was just on the verge of starting a new topic when I decided it would get slaughtered so I will pose the question on this one.

If not Pellegrini then who would you want as manager?

I am not advocating sacking him after four games but who is available that could do the job anyway? Apart from Mancini, what top class manager is currently out of work?
 
True_Blue69 said:
dctid said:
If we screw up the next two games ie we lose one or both with the same type of performances then for me he can do one as one poster put it. To progress in the CL we have to get something away and we cannot let a gap open up between us and the other teams or we will struggle top 4

If being nice to players means they turn out this level of shizzzle then please bring back an autocratic odious bastard manager in place of this fucker w0rked quite well for Ferguson, Mouriniho

You will probably find that if you speak to the players that played under the 2 you mention they will say that they're their favourite managers.

I think our start has been poor, but you cant even contemplate changing manager after 4 games, he still has to get the team playing his way and the new signings are just that - new signings. Negredo looks good but the others need to settle in before we see anything like what theyre capable of. The one thing in our favour is it looks like everyone else is capable of losing, in general the start to the season has been poor from all clubs except Liverpool and I dont expect them to keep that up for long.

Is that the managers who have won the Sweet FA Trophy?
 
Rammy Blue said:
de niro said:
Rammy Blue said:
Sheikh Mansour is a fucking idiot?

rammy mate, me, you and half this forum know more about football than our owner. he will have been guided by the gruesome twosome.

I know mate, only jesting.

Thing is though, Mancini had to go, of that there is no doubt. What we should be debating now and in weeks to come is whether Ferran and Txiki have dropped a bollock by appointing MP.

I must admit to being slightly mystified by his selections and tactics so far however due to the injuries I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

There is a doubt that is the problem
 
NipHolmes said:
hilts said:
NipHolmes said:
I made that thread before the Newcastle game.

You know full well I said that top 4 and progression in Europe was my requirement. However I believe we can win the league.

I'm not fussed what others think, remember last season when 40k sang Bobbys name. Some good that did. What counts is what the people upstairs think and right now I am sure they aren't propping the ceiling up with acroprops waiting for the sky to fall in. Instead they are probably waiting for next week which is a crucial time for us.

You do know that you get 3 points if you beat stoke or the rags don't you? can you please tell me how you came to the conclusion that pelligrini is a good manager but you think he picks the wrong players and system, you seem to have missed this point

Yes I know. But us beating the Rags means they dont get anything.

I've missed nothing. Pellegrini favours the 4-2-2-2, check his history. However Yaya imo simply does not fit this formation. Please tell me where Yaya should play provisionally in said formation?

The 4231 would have two box to box runners in Kilner and Fernandinho whilst playing Yaya in his best position. We would lose his deep passes forward but we would dominate more midfields and be very strong. The orblem then is that we have Aguero, Dzeko and Negredo all vying for one place in the team, hence why we play with two attackers imo.

-- Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:39 pm --

de niro said:
Rammy Blue said:
Sheikh Mansour is a fucking idiot?

rammy mate, me, you and half this forum know more about football than our owner. he will have been guided by the gruesome twosome.

On my life, I am utterly perplexed at what you've just wrote and so flabbergasted I feel that my sanity can only remain with logging off.

The gruesome twosome. Unbelievable.

P.S. Google them and see who many top clubs chased their appointments.

Amazes me how some fans are so willing to defend those 2 to the hilt like they're some sort of football/business gods. If you look at the summer transfer window alone they got their arses handed to them. Massively overpaid for Fernan, paid over the top for Navas when we were the only team in for him and missed out on all our key big targets because they were penny pinching. Just because a lot of teams were after them doesn't mean we should ignore the shoddy work they have done so far.
 
Ardwick Green Blue said:
I was just on the verge of starting a new topic when I decided it would get slaughtered so I will pose the question on this one.

If not Pellegrini then who would you want as manager?

I am not advocating sacking him after four games but who is available that could do the job anyway? Apart from Mancini, what top class manager is currently out of work?

This question should never have been asked. Pellegrini is our manager - end of story
 
Ardwick Green Blue said:
I was just on the verge of starting a new topic when I decided it would get slaughtered so I will pose the question on this one.

If not Pellegrini then who would you want as manager?

I am not advocating sacking him after four games but who is available that could do the job anyway? Apart from Mancini, what top class manager is currently out of work?

Mancini should have got another year.
 
Ardwick Green Blue said:
I was just on the verge of starting a new topic when I decided it would get slaughtered so I will pose the question on this one.

If not Pellegrini then who would you want as manager?

I am not advocating sacking him after four games but who is available that could do the job anyway? Apart from Mancini, what top class manager is currently out of work?

When he was at Napoli I wanted Mazarri so still him. Would love AVB too.

Obviously though I'd rather keep Pellegrini for a long time yet.
 
uwe rosler 28 said:
MadchesterCity said:
uwe rosler 28 said:
Got a massive game tuesday first could shape our season madrid away really set us back last season as for pellers he, s getting used to the players and viceversa if were in touching distance by xmas I really do think we will piss the lge!

This bullshit is naive as hell, we have the toughest back half of the season I can remember.


Rather play the tough games at the end when the players are settled in if we played them now we could already be lookin like the title was out ov reach!

I would much rather have the points on the table, the players should have been able to get themselves up for the big games more than they have for the first few games. It is always better to get the away games out first as these are the toughest fixtures.

Looks like we have taken several steps back this season and if god forbid we get beat by the scum I'd be very concerned it looks like a fight for top four rather than a title challenge.
 
The usual over reaction to City not winning the game. i agree we are missing vincent in defence and the new players are taking the usual time to bed in, so lets all push in the same direction. We will get better as we play more games, and the season is not over by a long way. Put it in perspective, not so long ago we would have lost that game. We came away with a point and their manager looked like he had won the league. We have two massive games next week. lets get behind the team 100%.
 
Rammy Blue said:
de niro said:
Rammy Blue said:
Sheikh Mansour is a fucking idiot?

rammy mate, me, you and half this forum know more about football than our owner. he will have been guided by the gruesome twosome.

I know mate, only jesting.

Thing is though, Mancini had to go, of that there is no doubt. What we should be debating now and in weeks to come is whether Ferran and Txiki have dropped a bollock by appointing MP.

I must admit to being slightly mystified by his selections and tactics so far however due to the injuries I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

the bollock dropped was not standing the entire squad against a wall and asking the question "who wants to play for Manchester city?" those that do Carrington is that way. those who don't, off you pop. we are the only club that could stand up to these prima donna's who think by ending a 44 year drought their work is done.

mancini and pelli shouldn't come in to it. the club sign them, the club pay them. the manager is just another employee.
 
CC1 said:
Ardwick Green Blue said:
I was just on the verge of starting a new topic when I decided it would get slaughtered so I will pose the question on this one.

If not Pellegrini then who would you want as manager?

I am not advocating sacking him after four games but who is available that could do the job anyway? Apart from Mancini, what top class manager is currently out of work?

This question should never have been asked. Pellegrini is our manager - end of story

Eh?

So no-one is allowed to discuss how good, bad or indiferent he has been to date?
 
didactic said:
Ardwick Green Blue said:
I was just on the verge of starting a new topic when I decided it would get slaughtered so I will pose the question on this one.

If not Pellegrini then who would you want as manager?

I am not advocating sacking him after four games but who is available that could do the job anyway? Apart from Mancini, what top class manager is currently out of work?

Mancini should have got another year.

You would have had to show a great amount of faith to keep him, personally long term it could have been a great decision but it would have been very messy

you couldn't have given him a year you would have had to trust him for the next five years at least
 
Pellegrini seems like a nice guy. But he's 60 years old and if he was going to be a great football manager he would be one already.

The club has fallen victim to politics. Neither Sheikh Mansour nor Khaldoon are football people and they've been badly advised.
 
Ardwick Green Blue said:
CC1 said:
Ardwick Green Blue said:
I was just on the verge of starting a new topic when I decided it would get slaughtered so I will pose the question on this one.

If not Pellegrini then who would you want as manager?

I am not advocating sacking him after four games but who is available that could do the job anyway? Apart from Mancini, what top class manager is currently out of work?

This question should never have been asked. Pellegrini is our manager - end of story

Eh?

So no-one is allowed to discuss how good, bad or indiferent he has been to date?

After 4 games??? I guess it's a discussion for the Red Cafe forum
 
When his name was first put forward, I thought why the hell would we want to sack a serial winner and replace him with the Chilean version of Juande Ramos. However not wanting to appear a bad loser went along with the Cabals version, that Pelle is a football genius. To be fair to that small group of Mancini dislikers, Txiki and most of the media and the players seemed to concur.

Having now seen the first games of his reign the obvious thing is that whereas when Roberto came in he organised a fairly shambolic defence, Pelle seems to have made our defence appear extremely vulnerable.

That wouldn't be so bad if something were offered in return. But in fact we look pretty disorganized all over the park.

I can't help feeling that the signings have been good. The question is whether we have a Joe Venglos or an Arsene Wenger running things from the side.
 

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