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Pellegrini is too nice and placid in the media. City aren't an establishment club and would find it hard to win the PL with him. You are fighting not just on the pitch, but the referees, the media and even football establishment who all want City to lose.

That's why Mancini had to act a certain way to win the PL. He had to be a certain force and personality to win it, that's why he has won titles with anti-establishment clubs throughout his career.

It's not just about winning games on match day, manager has to pressure referees and manage the press.
 
gelly said:
Pellegrini is too nice and placid in the media. City aren't an establishment club and would find it hard to win the PL with him. You are fighting not just on the pitch, but the referees, the media and even football establishment who all want City to lose.

That's why Mancini had to act a certain way to win the PL. He had to be a certain force and personality to win it, that's why he has won titles with anti-establishment clubs throughout his career.

It's not just about winning games on match day, manager has to pressure referees and manage the press.

The way Mancini was with the media created as many problems as it solved. The rather rash way he dealt with the Tevez incident was a case in point. He was too hot headed and spoke his mind without considering the long term ramifications. It's no coincidence that the media haven't had nearly as much ammunition to use against City since Pellegrini took over. Journalists can't stand Pellegrini, not because there's anything wrong with him, he's a perfectly pleasant man, it's because he gives them nothing to sensationalise, he stoically blocks every question.
 
The media will grow to love the professionalism City show. They have Mourinho for their headlines. They have Liverpool for their love story and Pellegrini just gets on with the job. The media don't win games. Any team that gives in to media pressure is a weak one. The underdog would never win if the media were so effective. Chelsea have still been poor and lost games they should win despite the Mourinho "factor". They lost 3-1 in Paris to a PSG side that were average at best. And scraped through 2-0 at home playing Sam Allardyce Bolton bus football. It makes no difference whatsoever. Liverpool can talk all they want about doing it for the 96, for Gerrard for whatever the hell they want to do it for. It matters not. They can be motivated all they want, pumped up all they want it makes no difference they might still slip up.

Gerrard's talked about treating it like the CL final v Milan. The one where they were 3-0 down and won on pens. Would love him to take that mentality into the remaining games personally as that way they draw the rest of their games! Such utter bollocks being spouted around. Meanwhile we now literally have no pressure and nothing to lose. It's the way we like it and it's what can see us win the league. By the time anyone talks about us winning the league again we will have two home games left. We don't like to do things the easy way, we don't like to lead from the front and we don't like pressure. We do like being underdog and we do like surprising others!
 
Skashion said:
Matty said:
Skashion said:
Fucking hell, three mods in a row. Power mad alley.

Yep, and for Col and myself, entirely coincidental! We'd been sat next to each other, and chatted at the game, for the best part of a season before we realised who each other was!
Thinking about it, East Stand is where the mods are. Three in 109, one in 111, Ric's in 105 I think. Squirtyflower's the oddball in Colin Bell.

How dare you. I'm a 110 man myself.
 
Ric said:
Skashion said:
Matty said:
Yep, and for Col and myself, entirely coincidental! We'd been sat next to each other, and chatted at the game, for the best part of a season before we realised who each other was!
Thinking about it, East Stand is where the mods are. Three in 109, one in 111, Ric's in 105 I think. Squirtyflower's the oddball in Colin Bell.

How dare you. I'm a 110 man myself.
All the best people are in 110 so fair enough.
 
gelly said:
Pellegrini is too nice and placid in the media. City aren't an establishment club and would find it hard to win the PL with him. You are fighting not just on the pitch, but the referees, the media and even football establishment who all want City to lose.

That's why Mancini had to act a certain way to win the PL. He had to be a certain force and personality to win it, that's why he has won titles with anti-establishment clubs throughout his career.

It's not just about winning games on match day, manager has to pressure referees and manage the press.

You say that ''Pellegrini is too nice and placid'' and therefore is not a winner. Try telling that to Pep Guardiola!!!!!

What if Silva managed to reach that pass from Aguero and score the winner.....the definite Skrtel handball or the definite Dzeko penalty......we would be celebrating a famous victory. But, according to you, the fact that City lost the game is nothing to do with the above but because Pellegrini is too nice and placid and therefore not a winner......give me strength oh Lord!!!!!!.
 
br62 said:
gelly said:
Pellegrini is too nice and placid in the media. City aren't an establishment club and would find it hard to win the PL with him. You are fighting not just on the pitch, but the referees, the media and even football establishment who all want City to lose.

That's why Mancini had to act a certain way to win the PL. He had to be a certain force and personality to win it, that's why he has won titles with anti-establishment clubs throughout his career.

It's not just about winning games on match day, manager has to pressure referees and manage the press.

You say that ''Pellegrini is too nice and placid'' and therefore is not a winner. Try telling that to Pep Guardiola!!!!!

What if Silva managed to reach that pass from Aguero and score the winner.....the definite Skrtel handball or the definite Dzeko penalty......we would be celebrating a famous victory. But, according to you, the fact that City lost the game is nothing to do with the above but because Pellegrini is too nice and placid and therefore not a winner......give me strength oh Lord!!!!!!.

We were lucky to even score two goals. Had Javi stayed on the bench , we'd get thrashed 7-0.

Pellegrini got the line up wrong. But we hope he learns from his mistakes.
 
gungho-tactics said:
br62 said:
gelly said:
Pellegrini is too nice and placid in the media. City aren't an establishment club and would find it hard to win the PL with him. You are fighting not just on the pitch, but the referees, the media and even football establishment who all want City to lose.

That's why Mancini had to act a certain way to win the PL. He had to be a certain force and personality to win it, that's why he has won titles with anti-establishment clubs throughout his career.

It's not just about winning games on match day, manager has to pressure referees and manage the press.

You say that ''Pellegrini is too nice and placid'' and therefore is not a winner. Try telling that to Pep Guardiola!!!!!

What if Silva managed to reach that pass from Aguero and score the winner.....the definite Skrtel handball or the definite Dzeko penalty......we would be celebrating a famous victory. But, according to you, the fact that City lost the game is nothing to do with the above but because Pellegrini is too nice and placid and therefore not a winner......give me strength oh Lord!!!!!!.

We were lucky to even score two goals. Had Javi stayed on the bench , we'd get thrashed 7-0.

Pellegrini got the line up wrong. But we hope he learns from his mistakes.

But he hasn't tactical naivity all the time.
 
JaviGarciaShow said:
gungho-tactics said:
br62 said:
You say that ''Pellegrini is too nice and placid'' and therefore is not a winner. Try telling that to Pep Guardiola!!!!!

What if Silva managed to reach that pass from Aguero and score the winner.....the definite Skrtel handball or the definite Dzeko penalty......we would be celebrating a famous victory. But, according to you, the fact that City lost the game is nothing to do with the above but because Pellegrini is too nice and placid and therefore not a winner......give me strength oh Lord!!!!!!.

We were lucky to even score two goals. Had Javi stayed on the bench , we'd get thrashed 7-0.

Pellegrini got the line up wrong. But we hope he learns from his mistakes.

But he hasn't tactical naivity all the time.

He has been tactically naive all season.

When you play with attack minded fullbacks, two wingers and two strikers, then it vital you have two defensive midfielders. Football is about balance, and we've been playing with an unbalanced team all season.

I assume he gave Toure the opportunity to improve, but clearly he hasn't improved.
 
gungho-tactics said:
JaviGarciaShow said:
gungho-tactics said:
We were lucky to even score two goals. Had Javi stayed on the bench , we'd get thrashed 7-0.

Pellegrini got the line up wrong. But we hope he learns from his mistakes.

But he hasn't tactical naivity all the time.

He has been tactically naive all season.

When you play with attack minded fullbacks, two wingers and two strikers, then it vital you have two defensive midfielders. Football is about balance, and we've been playing with an unbalanced team all season.

I assume he gave Toure the opportunity to improve, but clearly he hasn't improved.

Spot on.
 
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