Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2014/15 (continued)

[GaudinoMotors]

A lot of papers are linking Rafa with the job which is interesting.

That would be like sacking Mr Bean and hiring Selwyn Froggitt.

Excellent - er not that I remember Scarsdale Working Men’s Club!

 

[mancity1]

My main concern is the total lack of any idea of how to defend, we have gone from looking rock solid at the back to being all over the place. The idea that we should just all stand on the edge of the box hoping to catch someone offside is plain crazy. Years ago when being level was offside and there was no interfering/not interfering with play, this was a viable tactic but not now. We just look like idiots game after game. Here is a crazy thought......Let our defenders, defend! Why rely on some idiot with a flag to determine our fate? Just defend!

When you look at some of our baffling tactics and our form falling off a cliff its unsurprising that he looks set for the chop and if he is sacked I can certainly see why. The main argument against it for me is the message it sends out, to the outside world it will almost certainly look like "Win the league or youre sacked" and I dont see how that is a sustainable model because no team wins the league every year!

Whatever happens going forward I think we should remember he won us the double last season. Yeah there will be those that say he did it with someone else's team but you could point that finger at a lot of managers these days given the lack of time most managers get in the top jobs. He did us proud last season and think on that basis he deserves a certain level of respect.

He will leave with the blessings of the club and the vast majority of the supporters and stakeholders but its not easy to sugar coat a sacking and despite getting rid of two managers in the space of just on two years I and the vast majority of supporters will not regard our club as a club that sacks managers at the drop of the hat or upon some knee jerk reaction to the club falling below expectations.

He was never going to be the man to take us forward to the next level and at best was only going to manage this club for three years Pep or no Pep or any other manager we target along the way.

Its important that we all realise that and when you understand why you realise that when he is replaced either before seasons end or during the summer its not as important that he is replaced which is the right thing to do but who we replace him with.

MP is a decent manager but not one that can lead us to where we want to go next , maybe the next manager won't either and I don't see our set up as anything other than what is different managerial wise at clubs like Bayern, Real Madrid , Barcelona , PSG and Manure now.

I personally believe he is better suited to Spain , perhaps Italy and as far as Europe goes its not surprising he will manage the majority of his in these countries.

He might not manage again after this season but if he does it won't be in the premiership.

Of course our squad has a lot to answer for and a significant number will pay the price by having some of their wags having to socialise with a new set of wags which some won't like as it should be when you get paid well and don't perform for the supporters , the manager, themselves etc.

People know when you put in a shift for the team first and yourself second and do it consistently irrespective of your level of skill , speed and desire and mental spirit if I coin an Arsene line.

Those that don't don't deserve to be at this club for too long but those in charge of who comes and goes are always under the gun because as they should live or die on their ability to get the players that will improve the performance of the side overall in both play , style , intensity and result over 95 minutes week in week out.

You won't always get the rub of the green in any given match but in the end superior talent but more importantly commitment to winning having that talent will win out in the end.

Our current squad fails into what is important and you can talk about formations and style all you like but in the end its commitment to winning every challenge , commitment to keeping a clean sheet , commitment to beating your direct opponent at every set piece , commitment to winning relentlessly even when all seems lost that matters.

The players don't have it and the managment can't instil that into them over 95 minutes so MP has to go and serious number of players have to go as well.

Its actually healthy and long overdue and we will be better for it when its completed in an efficient and cost effective way as possible.

 

[badaz52]

I cant believe we haven't sacked him.

I can, there isn't anything better out there that is available.

Anyone!!!!

Problem is Txiki and Ferrain said when Pellegrini took over that they are working on a vision of a change of manager every so many years, many managers wont want to work with that as really it is saying "no matter what you do you will be replaced" how will that attitude fill any manager with any confidence or give them any feeling that they are able to change things if they don't work out.

I think Pellegrini is just going through the motions and has been from when he was appointed, the fact we won two trophies last year was as Mancini correctly said the team were still under his mind set but now that Pelle has had time it is clear that this is as far as he can go.

 

[baildon blue]

Something will happen at 5pm.

Thats my last hope for today.

I'm eating Chicken Casserole at 5pm but God help you if that is the highlight of your day.

Chicken Casserole sounds tasty .
Going for a game of snooker this evening .

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

A lot of papers are linking Rafa with the job which is interesting.

That would be like sacking Mr Bean and hiring Selwyn Froggitt.

Or this

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

I cant believe we haven't sacked him.

I can, there isn't anything better out there that is available.

So you don't believe there is anybody at all out there that can do better than Pellegrini currently. You do realise Leicester have picked up more points than us in the last 6 games and Villa under Sherwood have picked up almost double?

 

[Wanchope n me Dickov]

I don't get these people who say we should make the change of manager at the end of the season. Our form has been alarming since the turn of the year and it's getting progressively worse.

I am thankful to Pellegrini for last season but he has to go now. Finishing 4th would be a disaster and knowing our luck we will get stitched up with a tough draw just to get through to the group stage. Get Vieira in for the last 6 matches or failing that any decent coach who can make us harder to play against. Get 'arry in for a few weeks, he got Spurs over the line in 2010.

 

[baildon blue]

A lot of papers are linking Rafa with the job which is interesting.

That would be like sacking Mr Bean and hiring Selwyn Froggitt.

Or this

That's brilliant !!!!

 

[badaz52]

I cant believe we haven't sacked him.

I can, there isn't anything better out there that is available.

So you don't believe there is anybody at all out there that can do better than Pellegrini currently. You do realise Leicester have picked up more points than us in the last 6 games and Villa under Sherwood have picked up almost double?

Sorry what I should have said is there isn't anyone better who the owners would want, i.e. a big name. They want the glitz and glamour the sparkle, one of the reasons Hughes went so quick they'd never heard of him! Brendan Rodgers would be ideal.

 

[mancity1]

I can, there isn't anything better out there that is available.

Anyone!!!!

Problem is Txiki and Ferrain said when Pellegrini took over that they are working on a vision of a change of manager every so many years, many managers wont want to work with that as really it is saying "no matter what you do you will be replaced" how will that attitude fill any manager with any confidence or give them any feeling that they are able to change things if they don't work out.

I think Pellegrini is just going through the motions and has been from when he was appointed, the fact we won two trophies last year was as Mancini correctly said the team were still under his mind set but now that Pelle has had time it is clear that this is as far as he can go.

3 years is above average for the vast majority of managers these days especially at the top clubs.

Not sure why a manager of real stature in the game would not want to ply his trade to a side like us knowing he would only get two maybe three years best.

The vast majority of managers that win trophies these days don't stay at a club for Fergie or Arsene or Moyes time anymore.

Very few Arsenal supporters are happy with what Arsene has done for the club in the past 9 seasons on the field anyway.