Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2014/15 (continued)

[OB1]

Just give us a glimpse of the youngsters. Not asking for wholesale changes but for just once in your bloody time here take a chance and play someone under the age of 23.

Can't mate, Spurs might get upset. We should not blood youngsters because Spurs might get upset. that is a genuine post from these people.

No it wasn't. You are clever but that is a dumb comment and if you do not understand the point, I'm not spelling out it out slowly for you.

 

[blueinsa]

Is every little thing or mistake a sacking offence for some on here lol?

 

[OB1]

I agree as well. I think something which to a greater or lesser extent we all have to get used to, is that we will be more open than we were back when Mancini was manager whether we have MP in charge or Pep or any other manager espousing the high line, high press, all out attack mentality which we're trying to foster. It's sort of the nature of the beast that if and when the press is avoided or if the opposition pick the right passes and execute them well, then we'll look like a very open side.

You know I love to agree with you chaps, but for all that certain individuals did not play well this season and that there were others whose efforts weren't exactly Stakhanovite, there was one man kept not only picking them, but then deploying them in positions that not only did not play to their strengths, but even accentuated their weaknesses. The last 5 games have given me some hope that we will not see a repeat of the tactical debacles at Klanfield and Old Nafford, or the sheer spineless laziness of Turf Moor next season, but the real proof of the pudding is yet to come for me. DD is right that we were the best team this season, so we need to have a good look at ourselves this summer if we are to properly understand why we have finished so far behind them.

I don't disagree in the slightest. Pellegrini has made some bad calls this season without a doubt. If we replace him with Guardiola this summer it wouldn't bother me in the slightest, in fact I'd be even more excited. But if he stays I've a feeling he will get things right again. He's a bold old bastard in my opinion - too bold and trusting sometimes. But he's also clever and canny and I think he's learnt a lot about his squad's weaknesses as well as strengths this season.

I'd agree. We have underachieved and the manager bears some of the blame.

 

[mancunianpear]

Should be sacked on Monday if he plays a full team against Soton. Simple as that.

I'm not being funny, but for me he should be sacked on Monday regardless. The sudden change in tactics when we knew the title was gone just reeks of desperation and self-preservation.

I can't bear another dull season of shocking defending, shit set-pieces (both defending them and attacking ones), turgid post match interviews, boring press conferences, not giving youth a chance, not being tactically adept or malleable and hang-dog expression close-ups.

He needs to go!

Yep.

Too little, too late.

Bye Pellers.

 

[Shirley]

Should be sacked on Monday if he plays a full team against Soton. Simple as that.

One or two may get some game time but while there is something at stake i.e. Europa League positions I think City are obligated to play a near full strength team, much the same as the rags and West Ham are due to relegation being at stake.

There are post season and pre season tours coming up where the youth will be given opportunities.

Friendlies are NOT opportunities. In fact they are the worst way in the entire world to blood young players.

The reason they need first team football is because the Premier League is in a totally different class to the U21 and they don't know the requirements of speed of decision making and physical strength required to compete to which we they can start developing from. They don't know this because they've been consistently ignored by our manager for a variety of shit reasons that idiots parrot in some amazingly strange form of "trust".

You lot trust the manager to have given the players minutes if they were good enough. The problem though, is that this is completely blind trust with nothing at all to actually back it up. You think he'll do the right thing, despite many, many examples of him doing the opposite, because you WANT him to.

If you read my post I said one or two may get some game time plus you totally missed the point on obligation, so no need for the you lot and idiots.
No one wants to see youth given a chance more than me and it pisses me off when we have four international fullbacks, no need what so ever. One of those players should be from our youth.

Anyway you seem to have your knickers in a twist over this and considering the squad has yet to be announced I'm curious as to why you have left your crusade for the last game of the season.

 

[OB1]

One or two may get some game time but while there is something at stake i.e. Europa League positions I think City are obligated to play a near full strength team, much the same as the rags and West Ham are due to relegation being at stake.

There are post season and pre season tours coming up where the youth will be given opportunities.

Friendlies are NOT opportunities. In fact they are the worst way in the entire world to blood young players.

The reason they need first team football is because the Premier League is in a totally different class to the U21 and they don't know the requirements of speed of decision making and physical strength required to compete to which we they can start developing from. They don't know this because they've been consistently ignored by our manager for a variety of shit reasons that idiots parrot in some amazingly strange form of "trust".

You lot trust the manager to have given the players minutes if they were good enough. The problem though, is that this is completely blind trust with nothing at all to actually back it up. You think he'll do the right thing, despite many, many examples of him doing the opposite, because you WANT him to.

If you read my post I said one or two may get some game time plus you totally missed the point on obligation, so no need for the you lot and idiots.
No one wants to see youth given a chance more than me and it pisses me off when we have four international fullbacks, no need what so ever. One of those players should be from our youth.

Anyway you seem to have your knickers in a twist over this and considering the squad has yet to be announced I'm curious as to why you have left your crusade for the last game of the season.

Oh this is not a new crusade.

 

[Wilf Wild 1937]

Should be sacked on Monday if he plays a full team against Soton. Simple as that.

One or two may get some game time but while there is something at stake i.e. Europa League positions I think City are obligated to play a near full strength team, much the same as the rags and West Ham are due to relegation being at stake.

There are post season and pre season tours coming up where the youth will be given opportunities.

Friendlies are NOT opportunities. In fact they are the worst way in the entire world to blood young players.

The reason they need first team football is because the Premier League is in a totally different class to the U21 and they don't know the requirements of speed of decision making and physical strength required to compete to which we they can start developing from. They don't know this because they've been consistently ignored by our manager for a variety of shit reasons that idiots parrot in some amazingly strange form of "trust".

You lot trust the manager to have given the players minutes if they were good enough. The problem though, is that this is completely blind trust with nothing at all to actually back it up. You think he'll do the right thing, despite many, many examples of him doing the opposite, because you WANT him to.

Pellegrini brought through Isco at Malaga.

Mancini brought through Balotelli at Inter.

Any decent manager will play young players if they think that they are good enough. If they don't they won't.

We are an elite club these days. Players are sent out on loan to gain experience. If they are good enough they come back.
If they aren't they are either sold or released. The vast majority won't make it as first team regulars.

"Holistic" was just a bollocks term to justify sacking Mancini after he lost the power struggle. His inability to work with
the first team was far more his downfall than not picking kids. Who were these kids anyway? It's only now some are starting to
emerge. If Pellegrini remains next season and doesn't for example use Iheanacho as part of his squad then and only then can
you complain. The Youth Cup Final showed that most of our kids are just that. I'll be critical of Pellegrini when its appropriate
but this isn't. You'll be demanding quotas next ...

 

[br88]

Manuel scares me sometimes. He said today that after the game on Sunday he will see what we need regarding transfers.....I am assuming his English is confusing the issue because surely they have made their list weeks, if not months, ago.

 

[blueinsa]

Manuel scares me sometimes. He said today that after the game on Sunday he will see what we need regarding transfers.....I am assuming his English is confusing the issue because surely they have made their list weeks, if not months, ago.

Do you honestly believe the shit you have just written?

Do you want him when asked about Sterling to say yes we want him?

Im at a loss on here at times ffs.

 

[Damocles]

One or two may get some game time but while there is something at stake i.e. Europa League positions I think City are obligated to play a near full strength team, much the same as the rags and West Ham are due to relegation being at stake.

There are post season and pre season tours coming up where the youth will be given opportunities.

Friendlies are NOT opportunities. In fact they are the worst way in the entire world to blood young players.

The reason they need first team football is because the Premier League is in a totally different class to the U21 and they don't know the requirements of speed of decision making and physical strength required to compete to which we they can start developing from. They don't know this because they've been consistently ignored by our manager for a variety of shit reasons that idiots parrot in some amazingly strange form of "trust".

You lot trust the manager to have given the players minutes if they were good enough. The problem though, is that this is completely blind trust with nothing at all to actually back it up. You think he'll do the right thing, despite many, many examples of him doing the opposite, because you WANT him to.

Pellegrini brought through Isco at Malaga.

Mancini brought through Balotelli at Inter.

Any decent manager will play young players if they think that they are good enough. If they don't they won't.

We are an elite club these days. Players are sent out on loan to gain experience. If they are good enough they come back.
If they aren't they are either sold or released. The vast majority won't make it as first team regulars.

"Holistic" was just a bollocks term to justify sacking Mancini after he lost the power struggle. His inability to work with
the first team was far more his downfall than not picking kids. Who were these kids anyway? It's only now some are starting to
emerge. If Pellegrini remains next season and doesn't for example use Iheanacho as part of his squad then and only then can
you complain. The Youth Cup Final showed that most of our kids are just that. I'll be critical of Pellegrini when its appropriate
but this isn't. You'll be demanding quotas next ...

Our first team squad (officially) includes Richard Wright, Scott Sinclair, Dedryck Boyata, John Guidetti and obviously Fernando.

So I'm pretty much in with a chance there.

If Jeremie Boga makes a debut on Sunday he'll follow Baker, Swift, Kalas, Christensen, Solanke, RLC and Brown in doing so in JM's 2nd spell.

Pellers used Pozo out of position and Emyr Huws for 10 minutes in a League Cup game when 4-0 up. That is his record for debuts. He also gave Lopes a start in a League Cup game where he got Man of the Match, played him the next game where he had a bad game and he has never played ever since then. That was in the game when Negredo hurt his shoulder.

Mourinho was supposed to be the guy we didn't appoint because he was bad for our Academy unlike the holistic Pellegrini.

He isn't a City manager, he should go and go on Monday