Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2015/16

[Marvin]

There will be a lot of happy people and I've got a feeling the surprise will be at who no longer plays for us after the summer.

Changes are afoot.

All well and good, but everyone seems to have taken their eye off this season.

 

[Phil1]

There will be a lot of happy people and I've got a feeling the surprise will be at who no longer plays for us after the summer.

Changes are afoot.

How intriguing. Any chance of names? Of course I know Silva is out the door and Kompany. Anyone else I should know of?

 

[kaz7]

We've also had 9 clean sheets only the rags with 10 have more, things aren't so black and white.

I go by my eyes as well as the form charts,we are crap and show very little signs of playing better in the league,we are stale and we all should be able to see it,too many heads in the sand because of the need to protect mp

 

[Neville Kneville]

Well your opinions certainly aren't based on any type of actual evidence.

As I say, a man that claims to know more about Youth development, player conditions and Premier League tactics than those employed by Manchester City should have a job somewhere in football. How much you know really is astounding.

I mean only you could have predicted Barker to have a better future in the game than Sane. If not mistaken the last disagreement I had with you was regarding these two. And me saying anyone who watched Sane play against our EDS was a clear step up from everyone else involved.
Much the same as Iheanacho was.

But no, Neville Neville knew more again.

I can't remember anything about you. But I have never said that about Barker.

And Sane played well in the game v us, just as some of our kids were equally a 'step up' from everyone else in other games during the same season, including Barker, who, at his best on some occasions, was far more impressive, specatacularly more impressive. Sane looked a player, & one of our better opponents that season. Not better as an opponent than Patrick Roberts or the kid from Liverpool we are after though. On par with them, in a much better team.

Several of our kids produced performances equally or more impressive during that season. I would remind you that City actually won that game. It wasn't a case of Sane running rings round us for 90 mins, he looked a talented player & had a couple of nice runs. It was absolutely nowhere near the best individual performance I saw during that season. Nor was it as good as one of Patrick Roberts performances this season, when he was regularly skinning 2,3 players like George Best. Now he is currently a shadow of that player after the miserable stagnation he has endured at City. Hopefully he can get his 'mojo' back.

What I said was, that Sane was rewarded for his performances, by being promoted to their first team, which has subsequently brought him on some distance compared to our kids, whilst NONE of our academy kids has had the same opportunity. It is quite impossible for any of them to keep pace with kids who are playing in a top league regularly & all of them are falling behind the best kids from other clubs.

Sane does not play with super intelligence in that league, at this stage, he runs & crosses & shoots, sometimes loses the ball, hangs on to it too long, misses obvious better passes, etc etc etc. All the stuff talented kids do when they get promoted, all of them.

The difference is, that their manager is happy to see & benefit from what he CAN do, rather than worry about what he can't. If he was at City under Pellegrini, he'd have spent 6 months stagnating then be loaned out to Div 1, because managers higher up don't trust him, because they have only ever seen him play, in reserve football, & then possibly come back lacking in confidence & wondering why the pass & move football he's been coached at City gets him dropped when he does it at Barnsley.

 

[Shaelumstash]

There will be a lot of happy people and I've got a feeling the surprise will be at who no longer plays for us after the summer.

Changes are afoot.

I disagree.

The idea that Guardiola is going to come in and completely rip up the squad is a fallacy. Txiki has been moulding the squad ready for Guardiola's arrival for the last 3 or 4 years.

The only key player I expect to leave is Yaya Toure.

People said the same when he arrived at Bayern, he'll have to bring in 6 or 7 new players who can play his style. He brought in one.

Guardiola is a coach in the strongest sense of the word. He teaches talented players to play his style, to adapt to his way of playing. He doesn't just buy ready made "Guardiola type players" he coaches existing ones.

Personally I can't wait to see how much he improves Fernandinho, Silva, Nasri, Sterling, De Bruyne. He's going to improve individual players and the team as a unit on an incredible scale in comparison with the current manager.

 

[blueinsa]

How intriguing. Any chance of names? Of course I know Silva is out the door and Kompany. Anyone else I should know of?

I said I've got a feeling not concrete info.

Changes are afoot relates to a new manager coming in and the obvious new players that will come and those that will go thats all.

Just my opinion so calm your tits ;-)

 

[flb]

How intriguing. Any chance of names? Of course I know Silva is out the door and Kompany. Anyone else I should know of?

Fingers crossed its shit like Fernando, Kolorov and Bony for starters.

Yaya obviously looks doomed under Pep, new right back to give Zabba some competiton, good to go then for me.

 

[Phil1]

I said I've got a feeling not concrete info.

Changes are afoot relates to a new manager coming in and the obvious new players that will come and those that will go thats all.

Just my opinion so calm your tits ;-)

Who do you think though? This isn't some way of trying to drag an argument out btw - genuinely interested if your thoughts are echoing a couple of others.

 

[blueinsa]

I go by my eyes as well as the form charts,we are crap and show very little signs of playing better in the league,we are stale and we all should be able to see it,too many heads in the sand because of the need to protect mp

For some reason karen, the thought of us playing better football right now but possibly being further behind for whatever reason and you being happier just doesn't sit im afraid.

We are in a very good position to go on and win the league and thats all that matters right now. yes we could be playing better and i think we will. Call me an optimist ;-)

Protect MP on a forum? No fucker on here has the power to either protect him or do any harm in the same way that applied to Bob and Hughes and any other manager we have had or will have.

 

[blueinsa]

Who do you think though? This isn't some way of trying to drag an argument out btw - genuinely interested if your thoughts are echoing a couple of others.

I think Yaya is history like most. Zabba could well go as i think we need to strengthen in both full back positions. AK doesn't have the discipline required to play under Pep imo.

I honestly think we will cash in on a name as well this summer to help strengthen. I have no idea who might go but i just have a hunch and thats all it is.