Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2015/16

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If we had taken Yaya out of that team yesterday and played KDB in the No.10, and had Sterling and Navas out wide, we would have been no worse off.

He is our Rooney, shoehorned in by reputation alone. Can't play in No.10. Can't play in midfield two.

And it was clear as he left the field that he felt offended by the notion he should be subbed.
 
Pellers got it spot on yesterday - Fernandinho and Fernando in front of the back 4 was effective in front of a solid back 4. The only issue was our lack of attacking quality. Bony ok first half but invisible 2nd and playing much too deep. Also disappointed with yaya. Thought he gave us absolutely nothing and was disappointed a couple of times when yaya let United CB's just run past him.

Think we should have brought navas and iheanacho on, and moved sterling or KDB more central.

Yaya is going to be a major issue for us when silva and Delph both fit as I genuinely don't think he belongs in our best 11 anymore. And judging by his reaction when he was subbed yesterday I'm not sure he'd take that well.

What to do with toure is a bit of a problem, the guy is still quality and a game changer, for most games he can play alongside dinho albeit it is a gamble, the problem comes playing the top teams in england and Europe, 4 3 3 would suit him best with fernando holding and him and dinho having licence to get forward, the main problem with that is moving silva/kdb wide and leaving sterling and navas out, It causes too many problems

And he certainly can't play that number 10 role as he is far more effective coming from deep positions
 
If we had taken Yaya out of that team yesterday and played KDB in the No.10, and had Sterling and Navas out wide, we would have been no worse off.

He is our Rooney, shoehorned in by reputation alone. Can't play in No.10. Can't play in midfield two.

And it was clear as he left the field that he felt offended by the notion he should be subbed.

Said in another thread last week that Manuel has some big decisions to make about Yaya now we have signed Sterling and Kev, its Silva all day long at Yayas expense when he is fit as for me Sterling and Kev are shoe ins-we will see the best out of Sterling especially when Silva is back in the team.
 
If we had taken Yaya out of that team yesterday and played KDB in the No.10, and had Sterling and Navas out wide, we would have been no worse off.

He is our Rooney, shoehorned in by reputation alone. Can't play in No.10. Can't play in midfield two.

And it was clear as he left the field that he felt offended by the notion he should be subbed.

Do you think, like with Rooney, there's a bigger factor involved in his inclusion? It seems as though both are above the clubs, and have had assurances from CEO's as to being part of the matchday squad. Pellegrini has shown faith in players and doesn't seem adverse to dropping a usual starter to ensure they're committed. Yaya seems to be the exception despite being a clear weakness in our side.
 
Mixed feelings after the past week. he dodged a bullet against Sevilla, and yesterday whilst I liked our control in the first half the 2nd half I felt we showed them far too much respect . It was clear Yaya was goosed and Bony was just Bony. I think if he'd changed it earlier we might have edged it.
 
If we had taken Yaya out of that team yesterday and played KDB in the No.10, and had Sterling and Navas out wide, we would have been no worse off.

He is our Rooney, shoehorned in by reputation alone. Can't play in No.10. Can't play in midfield two.

And it was clear as he left the field that he felt offended by the notion he should be subbed.

This hits the nail on the head, and I 100% agree.
 
KDB looked red in the face yesterday in fact he looked knackered in the second half of the Sevilla game, hes played a lot of football since arriving and having Silva and Nasri both injured has meant he has had to play-he was running on empty yesterday.Sterling should be playing on the opposite flank, feel sorry for Bony -he just doesnt fit our style of play.

I think fatigue definitely played it's part in the 2nd half. Which is why i'd have pulled Toure at half time and stuck Navas on Rojo and moved KDB central. On the break we would've been much more effective with pace on both flanks and De Bruyne's passing and direct running through the middle of the park. I also think KDB would've got far more joy out of United's midfield pair than Toure did.

Anyway, it's neither here nor there in the greater scheme of things. A good point and we are back top of the league.
 
Do you think, like with Rooney, there's a bigger factor involved in his inclusion? It seems as though both are above the clubs, and have had assurances from CEO's as to being part of the matchday squad. Pellegrini has shown faith in players and doesn't seem adverse to dropping a usual starter to ensure they're committed. Yaya seems to be the exception despite being a clear weakness in our side.

I think the two have been trapped in their expensive gilded cages.

Both are top earners and that has distracted other clubs from taking a chance on players who could still do a job for them at a lower level.

Toure should have been sold the year he helped us win the title and he kicked-up all that shit, but our FFP restrictions put paid to any meaningful replacement being brought in.

Again, we should have cut our losses this summer but I do think we thought we could send him on his way in 12 months with another title and that would be a fitting send-off.

That doesn't mean he should be a regular in this present set-up.

Yaya is right, for 18 months, he was the best midfielder in the world, bar none. He didn't get the recognition and he will damage his reputation by dragging the inevitable out for much longer.

I hope we look after him, send him to NYC after a string of vital sub appearances.

Rooney is a different matter, he earns £300k a week and he's now trapped by his previous greed and United haven't been relevant enough to attract the type of striker upgrade they require these last couple years.
 
If we had taken Yaya out of that team yesterday and played KDB in the No.10, and had Sterling and Navas out wide, we would have been no worse off.

He is our Rooney, shoehorned in by reputation alone. Can't play in No.10. Can't play in midfield two.

And it was clear as he left the field that he felt offended by the notion he should be subbed.

He still comes up with the goods though and I have a feeling he wouldn't take being dropped on a regular basis very well, it's a big problem for pellegrini.

Most would have Sergio,kdb,silva and sterling in their team, I would have navas over sterling but regardless that leaves toure in a midfield 2, unless we play 3 at the back which won't be done it's a problem, it is not helpful to dinho either
 
Many people will laugh but away from home and in Europe...all day - so much energy and much underrated forward passing and box-to-box from Fernandinho and Delph. We have to forget about price tags, reps etc. As Pellegrini initially stated, we need the right instruments in the orchestra.

..............Delph.......Fernado.............
...................Fernandinho.............
 
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