dasein
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Yeah, I am angry really
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Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2015/16
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Yeah, I am angry really
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blueinsa
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Ferran finished with.....
"You need the commitment from your heart, the kind that can't be bought with a lot of money,” Soriano said. “I think football is a metaphor for life, life in ninety minutes, life in a short space.
"You need emotional balance and everyone in the team has to know what is expected of them. They must know what their role is, and accept it.
"And we learn more from things that go wrong than things that go well.”
"You need the commitment from your heart, the kind that can't be bought with a lot of money,” Soriano said. “I think football is a metaphor for life, life in ninety minutes, life in a short space.
"You need emotional balance and everyone in the team has to know what is expected of them. They must know what their role is, and accept it.
"And we learn more from things that go wrong than things that go well.”
And this says where about tempo, shape and formation?
It clearly states attacking philosophy. I think Liverpool and Stoke attacked us without playing a recognized striker.
Ferran finished with.....
"You need the commitment from your heart, the kind that can't be bought with a lot of money,” Soriano said. “I think football is a metaphor for life, life in ninety minutes, life in a short space.
"You need emotional balance and everyone in the team has to know what is expected of them. They must know what their role is, and accept it.
"And we learn more from things that go wrong than things that go well.”
Again I would counter argue that under Pellegrini we make the same mistakes over and over again.
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That doesn't disprove what Cookster asked. As I've said Pellegrini and Guardiola both play a high line'd attacking style but the differences between the two manager's styles is gigantic. Guardiola is flexible, open to show he's made mistakes in formations and will change them even in the first fifteen minutes of games. he has the finer details of pressing, trapping opponents in certain areas of the pitch and winning the ball back down to a tee. He obviously studies his opposition and adapts to them, yet always keeping a high line'd attacking style. He is also never out of his technical area directing players and moving things around from minute to minute as play changes and the opposition changes throughout the game.
Pellegrini does none of this. We don't press or trap, he is competely inflexible, especially during play, he will never change anything in the first half and more often than not doesn't even at half time. He seemingly takes no notice of the oppositions strength and weaknesses neither.
Yet you'd think they'd be similar as they both play a high line'd attacking style.
mosssideblue
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And what turns a strong "Paper" squad into a strong team, the guy that picks/trains the players, tactics and tempo.
The acid test for me is at no point this season have we gone into a game as the underdogs, man for man we have better players with better technic, so if they doesn't demonstrate strength then what does?
I agree the manager should be able to tease more out of them, but I still believe we are not as strong in reality and we are on paper. Gen question mate, do you agree with any of my player opinions or are you happy?
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blueinsa
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That doesn't disprove what Cookster asked. As I've said Pellegrini and Guardiola both play a high line'd attacking style but the differences between the two manager's styles is gigantic. Guardiola is flexible, open to show he's made mistakes in formations and will change them even in the first fifteen minutes of games. he has the finer details of pressing, trapping opponents in certain areas of the pitch and winning the ball back down to a tee. He obviously studies his opposition and adapts to them, yet always keeping a high line'd attacking style.
Pellegrini does none of this. We don't press or trap, he is competely inflexible, especially during play, he will never change anything in the first half and more often than not doesn't even at half time. He seemingly takes no notice of the oppositions strength and weaknesses neither.
Do i think Pep is better than Pellegrini? Yes of course i do and i think we will land him come the summer but in the meantime, we will stick with Pellegrini because he was brought in to implement a certain style and system, as Ferran says but Pep will no doubt carry it forward.
No one is arguing otherwise but if you think Pep will come in and do what he wants regardless, its not going to happen and we will lose games under him due to the style the club wants.
Are we going to want him sacked every time as well?
mosssideblue
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We are a supposed all-out attacking, forward thinking, goal hungry club and we even struggled to create a single decent chance in 90minutes of football with a front three that cost us almost £125m yesterday!
I know Barça only drew last night but their front three st least created about eight really good chances, they just missed them.
Equating money spent to quality. I know it should mean that, but not always true
mosssideblue
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There are 4 competitions to fight for
Yesterday we were top. We have qualified from the Champions League. We are in the semi-finals of the League Cup.
Yes we are in a bad moment but we had these in title winning seasons before, and this time it's glaringly obvious that the team is missing key players. Look at the bench yesterday. We went down to 10 men after 70 minutes. I know the game was gone by then, but we're offloading all on Pellegrini
He is making mistakes, but can we just do what fans are supposed to do and stop moaning and get behind the team? There are moments when you have to do it and it works. Remember City at home to Stoke in Division 2 at Christmas. 1-0 down at half time, and from that moment we won again and again and again.
We need to be the extra man now. Stop moaning. We are all aware there are problems. The manager is not a total idiot. he has won stuff, and that goes for the players too.
The games are coming thick and fast now. Lets beat Borussia, top the group, and then put it right game by game.
I'm with you mate.
Absolutely shambolic. Embarrassing. No effort, no motivation, no idea. Where was the fight and the desire???? This manager is useless. Besides not having a clue about tactics and the ability to change in a game, he clearly doesn't know how to motivate his players to earn their ridiculous wages. And then he blames it on fatigue! Give me a break! They are athletes (bar, Fernando, who my mum could outrun!) I watched Salford Shitty play the other night, those guys have done a full day's work before they turn up to play on a rain sodden pitch and they didn't half put in a shift. Our players believe too much in their own press that they are the best in the country. They are clearly not. And the sooner they wake up to that fact the better. Pellers and that Dracula bloke who sits next to him on the bench (what does he do????) should be gone and that hanger-on Kidd, too.
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