Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2015/16

[Deleted member 58678]

Send me a link where it says the manager has to play a fixed formation that plays into the opposition strengths. The holistic approach does not mean rigid!

Neither does it mean allowing us to be overrun in midfield, never change things even when they blatently wrong in the first five minutes, to keep making the same mistakes, to have absolutely no pressing game at all even though we play a high defensive line, to make bizarre personnel choices and strange substitutions...

 

[blueinsa]

Send me a link where it says the manager has to play a fixed formation that plays into the opposition strengths. The holistic approach does not mean rigid!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...te-recent-defeats-insists-Ferran-Soriano.html

 

[buckshot]

It is absolutely time for him to go. This isn't just because of yesterday, it's because of the underachieving that has been going on since his first season. He can't get City over the hump in CL and he's only seen them get worse domestically. City's goals are too big for him, they need a manager who can figure out a way to get a goal from the team against bottom of the table Aston Villa. They shouldn't have to have a last second penalty to beat a third-rate German side in the CL. With Chelsea's troubles the league should be a walk in the park.

City are in a freefall and he's coming up with lame excuses about fatigue when there are fresh players on the bench who are better than the so-called tired ones he is starting. He refuses to use the younger players even in League Cup matches against Championship sides when City have a commanding lead.

This is not to say that everything is his fault though. Aguero can't stay on the field and neither can Kompany. Theoretically they have the required depth at CB even though Denayer would obviously be a better option than De Michelis. But I do blame him for offloading strikers w/o having a suitable replacement. Bony was nowhere near proven enough to begin a season with him being the only other striker he'd play besides Aguero.

 

[dasein]

Thankfully the majority of fans in the stadium are not a reflection of bluemoan

Of course they are, the fans in the stadium are the exact same fans as here, it's just here we have a veil to anonymity to hide behind. We can be as open with our views as we like here. When we get to the stadium we conform at least in part to a group mentality. but the group may be turned, and the fact that we are talking about it means people are angry. I am

 

[mcfc1996]

It's looking more likely he will be gone at the end of the season. I still reckon we will piss the league. No one is tearing it up and we have had pretty much everyone of our first choice players injured, most of them at the same time. When we get them all back and fit we will go on a run of 12/15 games unbeaten. Having said that it will be in spite of MP and not because. If Pep is coming it won't be until the summer so we are probably stuck with him.

 

[cookster]

Neither does it mean allowing us to be overrun in midfield, never change things even when they blatently wrong in the first five minutes, to keep making the same mistakes, to have absolutely no pressing game at all even though we play a high defensive line, to make bizarre personnel choices and stakes he substitutions...

Exactly, the hierarchy at City are elite professionals who know you have to adapt to certain situations and challenges. Not just blindly carry on when it aint working.

 

[grim up north]

Of course they are, the fans in the stadium are the exact same fans as here, it's just here we have a veil to anonymity to hide behind. We can be as open with our views as we like here. When we get to the stadium we conform at least in part to a group mentality. but the group may be turned, and the fact that we are talking about it means people are angry. I am

Really

 

[Len Rum]

In response to Marvin a few posts up.
'The team is missing key players' - yes we are, but it is up to the Manager to get the best out of the remaining players available to him.
'We went down to ten men after 70 minutes' - and whose responsibility was that after making the third sub far too early? ( actually the game wasn't gone by then, get a goal back at 2-0 in any game and the previously confident opposition can often panic).
'He is making mistakes' - yes he is ,the same mistakes, week in week out.
Invoking the spirit of Xmas '98 might help but we need a response from the Manager ( and of course the players).

 

[blueinsa]

Ferran after a defeat...

"There is a core of values, a core of beliefs that all we have,” Soriano said. “We win and we lose, but we never leave these (values).

"We always play attacking football, we try to keep the ball, we play with a high defensive line and we apply pressure to recover the ball.

“These are very simple things that all our teams do and, hopefully, you see our teams in Melbourne and Manchester play and you will see the same kind of football.

“This doesn't mean we'll win.

 

[blueinsa]

Ferran then added....

“But we never, ever renounce our values of the way we play football. We believe, because all organisations need some set of basic values that people believe in.

"That's very easy to say when things go well, but the challenge and the fascinating situation is, what happens when things go wrong?"