Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2015/16

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To me it's a weak excuse to blame tiredness. The art of management in the modern era is to keep players as fresh as possible for these demanding seasons. The evidence points towards Pellegrini failing this test. In my opinion he needs to completely rethink the way he manages the squad. He talks a lot about trust. Well perhaps it's time to trust Kean Bryan, Patrick Roberts, Manu Garcia and others.

Good points both but we all know he won't do this, and it annoys the shit out of me and I'm sure most other blues. You shouldn't have to be backed into a fucking corner before you make tactical changes or try anything different from what we have become used to. We are saddled until the owners get their man and I hope it's sooner rather than later.
 
I would love to sack Pellegrini if we had a replacement, but I don't see how we can have a replacement with all the stuff that is going on, unless Bayern are sacking Pep.

I think Pellegrini did a good job when he first came to City & is capable of a much higher level of tactical & organisational management than we are seeing. But I think there is strong evidence that he will only do that when backed into a corner. It wouldn't surprise me at all, if we suddenly won a bunch of games now playing a 4-6 formation wih no strikers & Silva as a 'false' 9 or something, as he's proved he can do shit like that. But he's also proved he struggles to motivate players to run the extra yard for him, & that he will try to revert to variations of his favourite system, against any opposition, at any time, & often refuses to take the oppo or the conditions, or the fitness of his players, into consideration. Well either that or he's a fucking stupid old bastard & I'm giving him too much credit.

He is apparently using fitness issues as an excuse. Well I was pointing out weeks ago, how he was running DeBruyne into the ground (many thought that was perfectly ok) & DeBruyne has never been quite as sharp since. I have also mentioned 1000 times, how imo a proper manager would have started regularly using kids later in games as subs etc & that thuis would have started over a year ago. The typical response to this from some is 'we pick the strongest side for every game' & 'they have to prove they are good enough, not expect favours'.

Well it isn't a fucking 'favour' it's about using our own kids to take the strain off the 'first team' players giving them more time to recuperate & not having them running at times when they are likely to pick up injuries & strains. It doesn't fucking matter whether or not George Evans is or isn't going to make it as a long term City player, if he can stop Fernandinho straining a calf muscle by replacing him for 30 mins when we're 3-0 up. This is the key to Ferguson's use of young players, not that they all bcome stars like Giggs, they help THE SQUAD get through tough times. That old fucker has totally failed to make best use of the untold riches at his fingertips & has no plan whatsoever in that regard, even for the short term.

And I'll give you the example which proves this: on the bench v Stoke, fucking Garcia. What the fuck was he EVER going to do v Stoke, away, in a fucking hurricane ? Kean Bryan, who tackles everything which moves, runs his balls off for City & even keeps possession better than Garcia, stronger, much more likely to survive ? Never even played 5 mins under Pellegrini. Absolutely scandallous waste of a potential asset which could help the squad & stupid, short sighted management. Denayer could also have filled in centre mid & right back as well as cb, & probably done centre mid better than Fernando. a better 1v1 defender than ANYONE in the first team. Maybe George Evans could have filled a space whilst others rested too. All would need minutes on the pitch to get upto pace first though. None have had any. Utter shit management. So when he moans about injuries, he is full of shit imo. He fucked up Negredo in a dead game, for no reason, almost cost us the season, & that has always made me wonder about him.


Nailed it
 
Shall we re visit and discuss in May or is the league won and lost in December now?

It's not won but it certainly can be lost(see Chelsea)

I can't see him turning it around, we will improve when our players come back but that is hardly the point - a manager should plan and adjust. Something Pelligrini appears not to bother with
 
Support the coach(?) players & club in public 'cos we could win the Prem & C1 C & do the Quarters in the CL this season.

Make changes early in the Summer with a Coach with strategic & tactical nous for all types of games,teams & conditions. A coach who will 'manage ' a game whilst it's in progress. A coach who will show leadership,common sense & flexibility. A coach who will willingly use talented youth players in games when circumstances allow so we can see whether they can contribute to the workload & whether they are truly good enough. A Coach who will be relentless & remorseless in driving us to be the ALL BLACKS of football.

Above all,a Coach who will do this before Neville takes over at RagLand......in 3 years time we mustn't be looking back in anger !!

Wonder what the odds are for a derby in 3 years time between Viera and Neville
 
Well spoken Nev.

Pellers is complaining about the players being tired and that this was partly responsible for the Stoke fiasco. Yet he fails to see that he is largely responsible for this situation. As you said KDB is a perfect example. Rather than rest him and take him off as much as possible to save his legs, he has persisted in playing him almost non stop. The crunch game for me was the League Cup. That was a perfect opportunity to rest two or three of our key players and promote a Kean Bryan, or a Garcia, or a Roberts. Rather than do this we saw an almost full strength team against Hull, for gods sake. The players are probably tired because he played them all against Hull.

In showing more flexibility it's not just about managing the ambition of youth, its also about resting our key players in a demanding season. There have been countless times this season where he could have taken off one of our big names and brought on one of our young stars. However Pellegrini simply refuses to support our youth, and he fails to realise that the tiredness that he complains about is largely his own doing. To me rotating our young players at appropriate points in a game is a win/win. It gives them experience and rests our senior players.

To me it's a weak excuse to blame tiredness. The art of management in the modern era is to keep players as fresh as possible for these demanding seasons. The evidence points towards Pellegrini failing this test. In my opinion he needs to completely rethink the way he manages the squad. He talks a lot about trust. Well perhaps it's time to trust Kean Bryan, Patrick Roberts, Manu Garcia and others.


He also ran Zabba into the ground last season and because of it he's a shadow of the player he was.
 
Leicester - They have the desire and passion but we should be ahead of them nonetheless with the talent in our squad.
Arsenal - bottlers. Nuff said.
Rags - Playing some shit football, they are crap.

So WHY oh WHY aren't we dominating this league, I will never know. Even with the injures our squad is superior to any team in this league. Can't wait to see what a world class tactican manager would do with our squad.
 
No. I'll add a bit more.

I am not being dragged in to a debate for could Pellers be doing better. My claim is now and always has been we don't have a strong squad. That comment is made irrespective of what other squads are like in the PL. I'm sure you will find someone more obliging to discuss with you your topics.
So can I assume by your reluctance to explain your opinion that we have a weak squad, that irrespective of how we perform and what kind of form trend the squad is showing, Manuel Pellegrini can count on your blind faith?

This kind of reminds me of the post exchanges I was having with your mate 'Pell not Pep' when I asked him would he change his username if indeed Pep did replace Pell, or would he change it to 'Pep Out' or just start a fresh axe grinding campaign? Incidentally, I'm still waiting on a reply from him too.

I think everyone can now see things very clearly where you and your mate are concerned.
 
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Klopps a scouser now mate.

We must have managers who we follow though & a pecking order of candidates. If Pep signs on at Bayern, I'd go straight for it & replace Pellegrini.

I have to say though, that I hope Pellegrini is onboard with all this Pep stuff, because if he is genuinely hoping to stay on in the future & we are negotiating to replace him irrespective of what he does, it's a bit unfair & could easily be affecting his judgement.
 
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