Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements {merged}

[Ray78]

Only chance next season with Pelle if he gets new players that are all able to press and are hardworking. Then we might start press as a unit and that will get us into less crazy situation.
Also defence would get more support.

Still goals are down too, Dzeko, Jovetic, Bony together hardly scored much. Dont why we are so scared not to have 4x 25m+ strikers in the squad.
If Dzeko/Jojo leaves this summer I expect Pelle ask another two 25m strikers. Certainly one of them will be 4th striker and play not much usually.

But I am not optimistic he can create a strong hard working unit that works perfectly off the ball and without that in CL we wont improve.

Providing we give Pellegrini the players he wants then I don't see why he can't do the same at City as he done at both Malaga and Villareal in getting their teams to work that harder.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Only chance next season with Pelle if he gets new players that are all able to press and are hardworking. Then we might start press as a unit and that will get us into less crazy situation.
Also defence would get more support.

Still goals are down too, Dzeko, Jovetic, Bony together hardly scored much. Dont why we are so scared not to have 4x 25m+ strikers in the squad.
If Dzeko/Jojo leaves this summer I expect Pelle ask another two 25m strikers. Certainly one of them will be 4th striker and play not much usually.

But I am not optimistic he can create a strong hard working unit that works perfectly off the ball and without that in CL we wont improve.

Providing we give Pellegrini the players he wants then I don't see why he can't do the same at City as he done at both Malaga and Villareal in getting their teams to work.

In nine months?, and with Pellegrini having no longer term commitment to the club, not a chance.

Would only ever be seen as a holding pattern and the first sign of a downturn in form will have speculation surrounding his stay before Christmas.

A wider question which needs to be asked of the management is one of addressing concentration and attitude.

City have tossed away leads to the likes of Burnley, CSKA (twice), and Villa.

 

[Sergi0 Na5r1]

Said it earlier but I can't see how keeping Pellegrini will be anything other than a failure. We've had a few months of treading water now and as a result we'll just about finish top 4, maybe top 3, but the performances have been inadequate. I dread to think how an entire season of treading water waiting for Pep would pan out.

Pellegrini did very well last season in many ways, there were a few concerns but ultimately we played fantastic football and deservedly wont the league. This season certain players under performed but unfortunately teams have evolved around us while we stood still. In the top leagues you have to run as fast as you can to stay where you are and we stood still and as a result Chelsea moved ahead of us. We keep Pellegrini for another season and more teams will pass us by.

It's time to let him leave. Too many here are absolving him of responsibility.

If we want to get rid of the players that didn't perform we have to get rid of the manager who didn't either. We give him new signings and he's unable to get them working and we're back to this season.

 

[pavelsrnicek]

Only chance next season with Pelle if he gets new players that are all able to press and are hardworking. Then we might start press as a unit and that will get us into less crazy situation.
Also defence would get more support.

Still goals are down too, Dzeko, Jovetic, Bony together hardly scored much. Dont why we are so scared not to have 4x 25m+ strikers in the squad.
If Dzeko/Jojo leaves this summer I expect Pelle ask another two 25m strikers. Certainly one of them will be 4th striker and play not much usually.

But I am not optimistic he can create a strong hard working unit that works perfectly off the ball and without that in CL we wont improve.

Providing we give Pellegrini the players he wants then I don't see why he can't do the same at City as he done at both Malaga and Villareal in getting their teams to work.

In nine months?, and with Pellegrini having no longer term commitment to the club, not a chance.

Would only ever be seen as a holding pattern and the first sign of a downturn in form will have speculation surrounding his stay before Christmas.

A wider question which needs to be asked of the management is one of addressing concentration and attitude.

City have tossed away leads to the likes of Burnley, CSKA (twice), and Villa.

Every defeat would see speculation on Pellegrini.

We need to start a new cycle this summer be it Pep, Klopp, Ancelotti or Brian Horton.

 

[Ray78]

Only chance next season with Pelle if he gets new players that are all able to press and are hardworking. Then we might start press as a unit and that will get us into less crazy situation.
Also defence would get more support.

Still goals are down too, Dzeko, Jovetic, Bony together hardly scored much. Dont why we are so scared not to have 4x 25m+ strikers in the squad.
If Dzeko/Jojo leaves this summer I expect Pelle ask another two 25m strikers. Certainly one of them will be 4th striker and play not much usually.

But I am not optimistic he can create a strong hard working unit that works perfectly off the ball and without that in CL we wont improve.

Providing we give Pellegrini the players he wants then I don't see why he can't do the same at City as he done at both Malaga and Villareal in getting their teams to work.

In nine months?, and with Pellegrini having no longer term commitment to the club, not a chance.

Would only ever be seen as a holding pattern and the first sign of a downturn in form will have speculation surrounding his stay before Christmas.

A wider question which needs to be asked of the management is one of addressing concentration and attitude.

City have tossed away leads to the likes of Burnley, CSKA (twice), and Villa.

We have players reaching the end of their time at the club and who have been brought in by two different managers. I am not surprised they aren't fully motivated or committed.

 

[whicko]

Providing we give Pellegrini the players he wants then I don't see why he can't do the same at City as he done at both Malaga and Villareal in getting their teams to workb
In nine months?, and with Pellegrini having no longer term commitment to the club, not a chance.

Would only ever be seen as a holding pattern and the first sign of a downturn in form will have speculation surrounding his stay before Christmas.

A wider question which needs to be asked of the management is one of addressing concentration and attitude.

City have tossed away leads to the likes of Burnley, CSKA (twice), and Villa.

Every defeat would see speculation on Pellegrini.

We need to start a new cycle this summer be it Pep, Klopp, Ancelotti or Brian Horton.

Brian Horton,he makes motor bikes doesn't he?

 

[chris85mcfc]

Providing we give Pellegrini the players he wants then I don't see why he can't do the same at City as he done at both Malaga and Villareal in getting their teams to work.

In nine months?, and with Pellegrini having no longer term commitment to the club, not a chance.

Would only ever be seen as a holding pattern and the first sign of a downturn in form will have speculation surrounding his stay before Christmas.

A wider question which needs to be asked of the management is one of addressing concentration and attitude.

City have tossed away leads to the likes of Burnley, CSKA (twice), and Villa.

We have players reaching the end of their time at the club and who have been brought in by two different managers. I am not surprised they aren't fully motivated or committed.

And those players we sign this summer will be on their second manager by next summer when Pellegrini's contract is up

So we will be in the same position again going by your theory

 

[pavelsrnicek]

Every defeat would see speculation on Pellegrini.

We need to start a new cycle this summer be it Pep, Klopp, Ancelotti or Brian Horton.

Brian Horton,he makes motor bikes doesn't he?

No he answers every question with a question, doesn't he?

 

[mosssideblue]

Providing we give Pellegrini the players he wants then I don't see why he can't do the same at City as he done at both Malaga and Villareal in getting their teams to work.

In nine months?, and with Pellegrini having no longer term commitment to the club, not a chance.

Would only ever be seen as a holding pattern and the first sign of a downturn in form will have speculation surrounding his stay before Christmas.

A wider question which needs to be asked of the management is one of addressing concentration and attitude.

City have tossed away leads to the likes of Burnley, CSKA (twice), and Villa.

Every defeat would see speculation on Pellegrini.

We need to start a new cycle this summer be it Pep, Klopp, Ancelotti or Brian Horton.

I agree every defeat would raise eyebrows, but I am also sure that if those managers named above were totally out of reach, many would switch their focus to shedding the deadwood and giving pellers fresh players to manage. Fickle bunch are footy fans

 

[pavelsrnicek]

In nine months?, and with Pellegrini having no longer term commitment to the club, not a chance.

Would only ever be seen as a holding pattern and the first sign of a downturn in form will have speculation surrounding his stay before Christmas.

A wider question which needs to be asked of the management is one of addressing concentration and attitude.

City have tossed away leads to the likes of Burnley, CSKA (twice), and Villa.

Every defeat would see speculation on Pellegrini.

We need to start a new cycle this summer be it Pep, Klopp, Ancelotti or Brian Horton.

I agree every defeat would raise eyebrows, but I am also sure that if those managers named above were totally out of reach, many would switch their focus to shedding the deadwood and giving pellers fresh players to manage. Fickle bunch are footy fans

How do we attract the players we need to try to aim at winning league regularly and making genuine attempts at the Champions League when our manager is effectively a temporary option?

I think Pellegrini did brilliantly last season but too much has gone wrong this season. The collapse in form from January 1st should mean he is out the door at season end with our gratitude for last season.

 

[blueparrot]

In nine months?, and with Pellegrini having no longer term commitment to the club, not a chance.

Would only ever be seen as a holding pattern and the first sign of a downturn in form will have speculation surrounding his stay before Christmas.

A wider question which needs to be asked of the management is one of addressing concentration and attitude.

City have tossed away leads to the likes of Burnley, CSKA (twice), and Villa.

We have players reaching the end of their time at the club and who have been brought in by two different managers. I am not surprised they aren't fully motivated or committed.

And those players we sign this summer will be on their second manager by next summer when Pellegrini's contract is up

So we will be in the same position again going by your theory

Except with players only one year into their time here instead or 4 or 5 years, not to mention we have players at the club that know they are surplus to requirements whoever the manager is,
As for a manager in their last year I think foreign players are much more accustomed to the situation. Bayern and Barca have both won C/L with managers in their last year and Napoli don't seem to be dropping off too much with Benitez.

 

[Damanino]

Only realistic chance of Pelle staying if we have a background deal with Pep and we dont want to change the scene much with an interim 12 month manager until that.

If we dont have a deal with Pep that means there is a good chance that he goes elsewhere in 2016 summer. But then we need to start a cycle right now with a new manager able to build his squad by having input on transfers at least.

Imo the new manager will have lot harder job than Pelle had given the rivals.

When Pelle took over we had Moyes turning United into a joke.
We had Chelsea clearly missing a top strikers and were a bit grey in midfield with Lampard-Mikel, then slowly they upgraded it to Matic-Fabregas, immense change that...
(Dont forget the 40m bid for Rooney from Mourinho in 2013 August, they wanted a top striker, United refused, Chelsea ended up with hoping Demba Ba, Torres will be enough, they paid th price of that. But at least learned from it, went for Costa and it paid off.)
Than also were a very good Pool side but it was mostly down to Suarez whose skills, energy just made Liverpool fly until karma catched them.:)

When a new manager comes in for next season it will completely different scene in terms of rivals. Upcoming United spending really heavily. Chelsea finding their weak spots and improving on just what they need in transfer market. A stronger and a stronger Arsenal that already will have the winning mentality bit from possibly two FA Cups in a row....
Also can see them going for the next Ozil, Sanchez level of player. If its a CM or DM of that level, they will really improve or even if its a top GK.

It will be lot harder to do really well next year than it was in 13-14.

I think we need an elite manager and if both Ancelotti/Klopp is available while there is no guaranteed deal with Pep for 2016, its madness. If there is a deal with him I can see us passing up Klopp/Ancelotti and try to risk one more season with Pelle. Other choice would be an interim Rafa maybe.
But then Rafa B. wins CL+PL and he has to leave?:)

Txiki wont risk it but to just let go Pelle end of his contract anyway. But to start with a manager that has 12 months on his contract that is strange.

Bayern wont do that with Guardiola. they give him a new one this summer probably. And that will make us pay quite heavy compensation imo when we get him.

 

[chris85mcfc]

We have players reaching the end of their time at the club and who have been brought in by two different managers. I am not surprised they aren't fully motivated or committed.

And those players we sign this summer will be on their second manager by next summer when Pellegrini's contract is up

So we will be in the same position again going by your theory

Except with players only one year into their time here instead or 4 or 5 years, not to mention we have players at the club that know they are surplus to requirements whoever the manager is,
As for a manager in their last year I think foreign players are much more accustomed to the situation. Bayern and Barca have both won C/L with managers in their last year and Napoli don't seem to be dropping off too much with Benitez.

And you think top players are going to jump at the chance to come here when they don't even know who the manager will be next summer?

 

[Blue1991]

I have just heard the most bizarre rumour

Steve Bruce is on the shortlist of managers to take over Pellegrini.

Madness?

 

[Manchester_lalala]

I have just heard the most bizarre rumour

Steve Bruce is on the shortlist of managers to take over Pellegrini.

Madness?

Get back to school, dinner is over now.

 

[argyle]

Providing we give Pellegrini the players he wants then I don't see why he can't do the same at City as he done at both Malaga and Villareal in getting their teams to work.

In nine months?, and with Pellegrini having no longer term commitment to the club, not a chance.

Would only ever be seen as a holding pattern and the first sign of a downturn in form will have speculation surrounding his stay before Christmas.

A wider question which needs to be asked of the management is one of addressing concentration and attitude.

City have tossed away leads to the likes of Burnley, CSKA (twice), and Villa.

Every defeat would see speculation on Pellegrini.

We need to start a new cycle this summer be it Pep, Klopp, Ancelotti or Brian Horton.

Brian who?

 

[blueinsa]

I have just heard the most bizarre rumour

Steve Bruce is on the shortlist of managers to take over Pellegrini.

Madness?

ridiculously low post count makes me think you are not who you pretend to be........

 

[DelToro]

I have just heard the most bizarre rumour

Steve Bruce is on the shortlist of managers to take over Pellegrini.

Madness?

Madness would do a better job than Steve Bruce.

Suggs has real potential.

 

[PragueBlue]

Only chance next season with Pelle if he gets new players that are all able to press and are hardworking. Then we might start press as a unit and that will get us into less crazy situation.
Also defence would get more support.

Still goals are down too, Dzeko, Jovetic, Bony together hardly scored much. Dont why we are so scared not to have 4x 25m+ strikers in the squad.
If Dzeko/Jojo leaves this summer I expect Pelle ask another two 25m strikers. Certainly one of them will be 4th striker and play not much usually.

But I am not optimistic he can create a strong hard working unit that works perfectly off the ball and without that in CL we wont improve.

The problem is that we haven't been signing players that fit with that system. Bony and Fernando just aren't players that suit a pressing team so if that's what we are trying to do, why buy them?

 

[Damanino]

Only chance next season with Pelle if he gets new players that are all able to press and are hardworking. Then we might start press as a unit and that will get us into less crazy situation.
Also defence would get more support.

Still goals are down too, Dzeko, Jovetic, Bony together hardly scored much. Dont why we are so scared not to have 4x 25m+ strikers in the squad.
If Dzeko/Jojo leaves this summer I expect Pelle ask another two 25m strikers. Certainly one of them will be 4th striker and play not much usually.

But I am not optimistic he can create a strong hard working unit that works perfectly off the ball and without that in CL we wont improve.

The problem is that we haven't been signing players that fit with that system. Bony and Fernando just aren't players that suit a pressing team so if that's what we are trying to do, why buy them?

Good question...

Also important to know should we try to buy players to completely fit Pelle's dominant 442/4222 strategy when he is only here for 12 months at best?
Should we really have four 25-30m strikers because Pelle likes that way, but when Guardiola comes and goes for 433 he will need more inside forwards/goalscoring wingers with pace from left/right etc...