Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements {merged}

[Kazzydeyna]

Both Ancelotti and Guardiola have proven they can handle big egos for a sustained period at an 'elite club'. As I keep saying pre takeover Klopp would be ideal. Not now, especially when Dortmund are languishing in mid table and have crashed out of the Champions League at the same time as City.

After having their best players sold from under them to appease ffp/bayern.

This is man is 5 times the manager MP is, he's arguable even better than Mancini.

Pellegrini's only season at charge at Real Madrid had them within 3 points of a dominant Barcelona side.

I know. And coming second in a 2 horse race is admirable, I agree.

Klopp is hands down a better manager than we have currently. It's not even close.

Honestly, do you think he'd struggle to get top 4 with a team worth hundreds of millions? In this league?
He'd be fantastic for us.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Both Ancelotti and Guardiola have proven they can handle big egos for a sustained period at an 'elite club'. As I keep saying pre takeover Klopp would be ideal. Not now, especially when Dortmund are languishing in mid table and have crashed out of the Champions League at the same time as City.

I'm struggling to see how Ancelotti has handled big ego's for a sustained period at a club. He has managed 'elite clubs' in Juventus, AC Milan, Chelsea, PSG and Real Madrid and won 3 league titles in over 15 seasons. That is an absolute shocking return for a so called 'elite' manager. I couldn't care less about he CL record because you need a large degree of luck in the competition. There is no hiding place for managers in the league and for me he is worse than Mancini.

Pep and Klopp on the other hand are masters at playing a certain style and they have the results to back their style. With our squad needed a huge rebuild and our academy on the rise, we should be going all out to get either of them two and transforming this team.

8 years at AC MIlan where they had both Berlusconi and his right hand man Galliani in charge and his short spell at PSG.

And I think the point he is making is that despite supposedly handling the big egos, he only won one title in those 8 years.

 

[sam-caddick]

I would love to see Klopp in and around City, his personalty reflects on his team on the pitch and that freshness would great to see at City, in fact it's much needed.

I really don't want to see another season with a drab charismatic manager whose personality reflects on the pitch, I want excitement from a manager.

 

[BlueDeadHead]

Perhaps people want Klopp because he comes across as a bit crazy, and City as a football club is also a bit crazy.

A crazy manager for a crazy football club, what could possibly go wrong !

On Klopps footballing style whats to say he wouldn't want to play a more possession based game, I imagine it would have been quite difficult to at dortmund as they kept losing their best players every season.

On what would happen to the likes of Silva, he had Kagawa as an important member of his team for a while didn't he? a similar sort of player, So I wouldn't be that worried.


Honestly though pretty much anyone is better that Pellegrini.

I'd love Klopp or Pep and Ancelotti, but I don't really get this anyone but Pellegrini, for me apart from about 5 or 6 options Sticking with him and a much improved squad wouldn't worry me.

See more and more I think the same. If we are having a clear out and players who would suit his/Txikis system are being brought in,unless their top of the list is available, I wouldn't have a stop gap..whoever it is.

They don't believe in the same system. THAT is the problem.

 

[BlueDeadHead]

Get Klopp and let him do whatever transfer business he desires,let him rebuild our lacklustre team.......it may be a short term pain scenario.......but ultimately he wouldn't disappoint IMO.

Klopp is absolutely my first choice. But you are essentially saying our owners should give up on the DOF model.

 

[daztrueblue91]

Both Ancelotti and Guardiola have proven they can handle big egos for a sustained period at an 'elite club'. As I keep saying pre takeover Klopp would be ideal. Not now, especially when Dortmund are languishing in mid table and have crashed out of the Champions League at the same time as City.

I'm struggling to see how Ancelotti has handled big ego's for a sustained period at a club. He has managed 'elite clubs' in Juventus, AC Milan, Chelsea, PSG and Real Madrid and won 3 league titles in over 15 seasons. That is an absolute shocking return for a so called 'elite' manager. I couldn't care less about he CL record because you need a large degree of luck in the competition. There is no hiding place for managers in the league and for me he is worse than Mancini.

Pep and Klopp on the other hand are masters at playing a certain style and they have the results to back their style. With our squad needed a huge rebuild and our academy on the rise, we should be going all out to get either of them two and transforming this team.

7 years at AC MIlan where they had both Berlusconi and his right hand man Galliani at the club.

It's irrelevant who is the CEO and DOF when you have players such as Shevchenko, Kaka, Pirlo, Maldini, Gattuso and Seedorf etc. 1 league title in 7 years is piss poor for AC, considering the squad they had. Also, he won one league title in two seasons with PSG and Chelsea and doesn't look like winning the league with Real.

I wouldn't be against Ancelotti if he would bring a clear style to the squad like Pep or Klopp but he doesn't. Also I think that getting Carlo would put a stop to getting Klopp or Pep in.

 

[Ray78]

I'm struggling to see how Ancelotti has handled big ego's for a sustained period at a club. He has managed 'elite clubs' in Juventus, AC Milan, Chelsea, PSG and Real Madrid and won 3 league titles in over 15 seasons. That is an absolute shocking return for a so called 'elite' manager. I couldn't care less about he CL record because you need a large degree of luck in the competition. There is no hiding place for managers in the league and for me he is worse than Mancini.

Pep and Klopp on the other hand are masters at playing a certain style and they have the results to back their style. With our squad needed a huge rebuild and our academy on the rise, we should be going all out to get either of them two and transforming this team.

7 years at AC MIlan where they had both Berlusconi and his right hand man Galliani at the club.

It's irrelevant who is the CEO and DOF when you have players such as Shevchenko, Kaka, Pirlo, Maldini, Gattuso and Seedorf etc. 1 league title in 7 years is piss poor for AC, considering the squad they had. Also, he won one league title in two seasons with PSG and Chelsea and doesn't look like winning the league with Real.

I wouldn't be against Ancelotti if he would bring a clear style to the squad like Pep or Klopp but he doesn't. Also I think that getting Carlo would put a stop to getting Klopp or Pep in.

They didn''t sack him after 2 seasons in charge and with the players you have mentioned all came with big egos.

 

[NQCitizen]

I suppose that'd cast similar doubts on Pep too.

In all honesty I'm not unconvinced Ancelotti is the best option - he's arguably the best at working with what he's got.

Plus what was the score last time Pep faced Carlo?

Both Ancelotti and Guardiola have proven they can handle big egos for a sustained period at an 'elite club'. As I keep saying pre takeover Klopp would be ideal. Not now, especially when Dortmund are languishing in mid table and have crashed out of the Champions League at the same time as City.

I'm struggling to see how Ancelotti has handled big ego's for a sustained period at a club. He has managed 'elite clubs' in Juventus, AC Milan, Chelsea, PSG and Real Madrid and won 3 league titles in over 15 seasons. That is an absolute shocking return for a so called 'elite' manager. I couldn't care less about he CL record because you need a large degree of luck in the competition. There is no hiding place for managers in the league and for me he is worse than Mancini.

Pep and Klopp on the other hand are masters at playing a certain style and they have the results to back their style. With our squad needed a huge rebuild and our academy on the rise, we should be going all out to get either of them two and transforming this team.

Pretty sure that actually points at Ancelotti being better at managing egos than Pep (4 years management of a player absolute max) and Klopp (always lost his best players).

To dismiss Ancelotti's Champions League record (incidentally the best ever) is plainly insane.

He didn't struggle too much when he knocked Pep out 5-0 on his way to arguably the most high pressure Champions League win of all time.

Every discussion that discounts Ancelotti is horribly flawed imo.

 

[Worst Case Ontario]

After having their best players sold from under them to appease ffp/bayern.

This is man is 5 times the manager MP is, he's arguable even better than Mancini.

Pellegrini's only season at charge at Real Madrid had them within 3 points of a dominant Barcelona side.

I know. And coming second in a 2 horse race is admirable, I agree.

Klopp is hands down a better manager than we have currently. It's not even close.

Honestly, do you think he'd struggle to get top 4 with a team worth hundreds of millions? In this league?
He'd be fantastic for us.

That doesnt make sense. Doesnt matter if it's 2 horse race or 10 horse race. That year there was only going to be 1 winner - that Barca, and being so close to one of greatest sides ever seen is no laughing matter. And if we use your logic then Klopp is struggling to survive with 2nd best team in Germany, it goes both ways. I do love Klopp for the record, and I would walk around hard for months if he came to manage City.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

7 years at AC MIlan where they had both Berlusconi and his right hand man Galliani at the club.

It's irrelevant who is the CEO and DOF when you have players such as Shevchenko, Kaka, Pirlo, Maldini, Gattuso and Seedorf etc. 1 league title in 7 years is piss poor for AC, considering the squad they had. Also, he won one league title in two seasons with PSG and Chelsea and doesn't look like winning the league with Real.

I wouldn't be against Ancelotti if he would bring a clear style to the squad like Pep or Klopp but he doesn't. Also I think that getting Carlo would put a stop to getting Klopp or Pep in.

They didn''t sack him after 2 seasons in charge and with the players you have mentioned all came with big egos.

Do you think 1 league title in the 8 years at Milan was a good return given the squad they had? Yes or no?