Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements {merged}

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tolmie's hairdoo said:
Perhaps when trying to determine the direction City will take this Summer, we need to look at it from other perspectives.

Should Bayern again come up short in the Champions League, whether tonight, or between now and the Final, does anyone really think a club of Bayern's standing will allow this ongoing narrative that their manager is simply in a 12-month holding pattern for City?

Would they fuck.

If nothing else, Guardiola will be offered a contract extension which would essentially put-to-bed any type of talk which could impact their own team, going forward, and also guarantee a compensation package at the time of his removal or we did come knocking.

Ironically, that would be a good way of calling Pep's bluff, both on behalf of Bayern AND City.

If he then chooses to decline an invitation to extend, Bayern will have a decision to make at the end of this season.

The presence of Klopp in the marketplace has really provided us with a win-win situation.

Pep signs a new deal, pressured by Bayern, or he doesn't.

Either way, we end up with Klopp or Pep this summer.

Whether by design or by luck, Guardiola is unable to set the timetable or the agenda, without revealing his hand.

In terms of solely debating whether Pellegrini will remain in charge, the above landscape delivers a resounding no.

That's a lot of presuming though, if Klopp has fallen out of the running then most of the above doesn't apply.
 
ewok said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Perhaps when trying to determine the direction City will take this Summer, we need to look at it from other perspectives.

Should Bayern again come up short in the Champions League, whether tonight, or between now and the Final, does anyone really think a club of Bayern's standing will allow this ongoing narrative that their manager is simply in a 12-month holding pattern for City?

Would they fuck.

If nothing else, Guardiola will be offered a contract extension which would essentially put-to-bed any type of talk which could impact their own team, going forward, and also guarantee a compensation package at the time of his removal or we did come knocking.

Ironically, that would be a good way of calling Pep's bluff, both on behalf of Bayern AND City.

If he then chooses to decline an invitation to extend, Bayern will have a decision to make at the end of this season.

The presence of Klopp in the marketplace has really provided us with a win-win situation.

Pep signs a new deal, pressured by Bayern, or he doesn't.

Either way, we end up with Klopp or Pep this summer.

Whether by design or by luck, Guardiola is unable to set the timetable or the agenda, without revealing his hand.

In terms of solely debating whether Pellegrini will remain in charge, the above landscape delivers a resounding no.

That's a lot of presuming though, if Klopp has fallen out of the running then most of the above doesn't apply.


If Pellegrini is here next season I will be amazed
 
flb said:
ewok said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Perhaps when trying to determine the direction City will take this Summer, we need to look at it from other perspectives.

Should Bayern again come up short in the Champions League, whether tonight, or between now and the Final, does anyone really think a club of Bayern's standing will allow this ongoing narrative that their manager is simply in a 12-month holding pattern for City?

Would they fuck.

If nothing else, Guardiola will be offered a contract extension which would essentially put-to-bed any type of talk which could impact their own team, going forward, and also guarantee a compensation package at the time of his removal or we did come knocking.

Ironically, that would be a good way of calling Pep's bluff, both on behalf of Bayern AND City.

If he then chooses to decline an invitation to extend, Bayern will have a decision to make at the end of this season.

The presence of Klopp in the marketplace has really provided us with a win-win situation.

Pep signs a new deal, pressured by Bayern, or he doesn't.

Either way, we end up with Klopp or Pep this summer.

Whether by design or by luck, Guardiola is unable to set the timetable or the agenda, without revealing his hand.

In terms of solely debating whether Pellegrini will remain in charge, the above landscape delivers a resounding no.

That's a lot of presuming though, if Klopp has fallen out of the running then most of the above doesn't apply.


If Pellegrini is here next season I will be amazed

So would I, I just don't expect it to be Klopp (or Pep for that matter) taking over.
 
kalouk said:
Damocles said:
Football fans are notoriously fickle when it comes to an incumbent and see what they want to see. He has worked miracles at Dortmund and will be known in 5 years as one of their greatest ever managers.

Either way, he is only going to be here for 3-5 years and people are excited for what he can potentially do for us in that timeframe

I agree this thread is proof of how fans can turn but surely they know him better than us. I got the impression they already see him as one of their greatest managers he is respected for what he has done for them but some feel he is not the man to take them further. He may well be an exciting, charismatic man but it seemed ironic that the things many believe he will change are the same things that some Dortmund fans say are his failings. If he doesn't have the tools at his disposable to implement his style here then what? We don't have an a lot of youth players ready for him to mould into his style and if we did would he have time to do it. Please believe me when I say I don't have anything against Klopp he has a personality that draws you in but I don't want us to rush in because he available.

Its not about a manager or coach taking 'a team further' or 'to the next level' its more about a change in direction and approach. Klopp had run his course at Dortmund. There was nothing left to give or do. What they need and Klopp needs is a change. A fresh face with fresh ideas for Dortmund. A new team and a new environment for Klopp. I dont pretend to know much about Klopp but his decision to call it quits is the right one and kudos for that even if the timing was a bit odd.

But Klopp is not the messiah. Neither is Pep or Carlo. All have reservations against them. If Carlo doesn't win the title in two seasons with RM with that squad and with one season of Barca being a bit rubbish then you have to raise an eyebrow or two. Pep is cantering to two title wins in a one horse race. Yeah its good but a lot of managers would be doing the same and so far the CL has been a bit pants. As for Klopp you can't ignore this season where the wheels well and truly came off. We can excuse it but you can't ignore it.

As for Pellers well that too has run its course. It was a nice fit last season and a soothing balm for the hard years under Mancini but the stodgy mess that has been served up this season says it all. Scrapping for 4th spot is not in the master plan. Yaya via his agent calling Pellers 'weak', chatter about how training has become 'stale' and a run of performances and results where we have stunk the place out and its a case of wrap this season up and move on.

So back to the three front runners and how they are a big upgrade. Well maybe. Carlo I don't think is and Klopp seems to be a touch of 'fanboy' worship so who knows. Out of the three Pep is the one that is in a different class (in my opinion) but to be honest I would be content if any of the three got the City gig. I mean put it this way its not going to be a bleeding disaster if our choices are Pep, Carlo or Klopp is it?
 
spanishblue said:
flb said:
spanishblue said:
FDB...for me :-)

Could he attract the caliber of player we need?

I think he can we may have to wait for the end result but FDB is about building teams not just buying them

He's only rebuilt one team Ajax. And Ajax is one of the usual teams certain to win the Dutch league anyway.
 
flb said:
spanishblue said:
flb said:
Could he attract the caliber of player we need?

I think he can we may have to wait for the end result but FDB is about building teams not just buying them


Of course but does he have the kudos of Pep, Klopp or Ancelotti in buying the quality we need?

In a word no IMHO the best bet for long term(if that is what we want) maybe the club want this changing of managers every few years.
 

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