Marvin said:The ideal way of finding out if Vieira was ready would to have given him the job in a caretaker capacity months back. It would have given us a clue anyway.
On what basis do you say Vieira is not ready? You have no way of knowing unless you have some inside knowledge or experience or his methods.
Manchester_lalala said:Marvin said:The ideal way of finding out if Vieira was ready would to have given him the job in a caretaker capacity months back. It would have given us a clue anyway.
On what basis do you say Vieira is not ready? You have no way of knowing unless you have some inside knowledge or experience or his methods.
That's what worries me. Vieira should of been given the job 3 weeks ago, just to see how he does. I do believe he will become a top class manager, but next season is absolute crucial to get top 4. If we do, I think pep will be here in summer 2016.
spanishblue said:After watching the EDS the other night and watching the first team IMO we are trying to develop a certain style of play,to my mind the only manager that can instill that style of play is Pep.
He will be here sooner or later everything else is just building the foundations for the style we want to play.
Mister Appointment said:Universidad de Chile said:+ 2.de niro said:agree with this. vieira simply isn't ready.
I agree about Viera - but a wider point.
The British media literally have no clue what's going on behind the scenes because nobody at City is talking either on the record or off. They can continue to pluck names out of thin air and attach them to the City job, but it won't change the fact that they don't actually know who City favour or in which order.
It's easy to write the list of six managers (Klopp, Pep, Carlo, Sabella, Benitez, Viera) who it's possible could get the job, but picking who out of the six is likely to get the job is an impossible task as I suspect only a handful of people even know and only one or two (Txiki + Khaldoon/Mansour) will decide.
kalouk said:Mister Appointment said:Universidad de Chile said:+ 2.
I agree about Viera - but a wider point.
The British media literally have no clue what's going on behind the scenes because nobody at City is talking either on the record or off. They can continue to pluck names out of thin air and attach them to the City job, but it won't change the fact that they don't actually know who City favour or in which order.
It's easy to write the list of six managers (Klopp, Pep, Carlo, Sabella, Benitez, Viera) who it's possible could get the job, but picking who out of the six is likely to get the job is an impossible task as I suspect only a handful of people even know and only one or two (Txiki + Khaldoon/Mansour) will decide.
Another point to remember is that there may not even be a City job to discuss. We are assuming Pellegrini will go but I have a feeling he will still be here next season.
kalouk said:Mister Appointment said:Universidad de Chile said:+ 2.
I agree about Viera - but a wider point.
The British media literally have no clue what's going on behind the scenes because nobody at City is talking either on the record or off. They can continue to pluck names out of thin air and attach them to the City job, but it won't change the fact that they don't actually know who City favour or in which order.
It's easy to write the list of six managers (Klopp, Pep, Carlo, Sabella, Benitez, Viera) who it's possible could get the job, but picking who out of the six is likely to get the job is an impossible task as I suspect only a handful of people even know and only one or two (Txiki + Khaldoon/Mansour) will decide.
Another point to remember is that there may not even be a City job to discuss. We are assuming Pellegrini will go but I have a feeling he will still be here next season.
crystal_mais said:kalouk said:Mister Appointment said:I agree about Viera - but a wider point.
The British media literally have no clue what's going on behind the scenes because nobody at City is talking either on the record or off. They can continue to pluck names out of thin air and attach them to the City job, but it won't change the fact that they don't actually know who City favour or in which order.
It's easy to write the list of six managers (Klopp, Pep, Carlo, Sabella, Benitez, Viera) who it's possible could get the job, but picking who out of the six is likely to get the job is an impossible task as I suspect only a handful of people even know and only one or two (Txiki + Khaldoon/Mansour) will decide.
Another point to remember is that there may not even be a City job to discuss. We are assuming Pellegrini will go but I have a feeling he will still be here next season.
City are playing their cards extremely close to their chest. They have accepted that the performances this year have not been good enough. It is not a negative on the manager but a negative all around.
The also accept that the cycle is coming to an end - there is only so much you can squeeze from this team. MP came at a time to help start the build. Unfortunately external (Political & Economic) factors have disturbed he growth and the necessary investment has not been made. The club have taken FFP very seriously - they want to be part of the big boys group and doing everything to comply.
Why should they have sacked MP - 4 weeks ago - PV doesn't want the gig part time - he's got it all to lose - We have had some absolutely shit luck since the turn of the year, also performances have not been the best.
We don't have the players for high press, quick football. he majority of this team was built around a slow possession game (Mancini style).
We have a host of candidates available this season - the key target is top 4 - I'm assuming the plans and targets are already drawn up for the next 5 years. We have Klopp & Ancelotti. Maybe also Enrique at Barca may need a job. Maybe even keep MP but with the players he needs to play the system he feels best with.
if I heard right that Khaldoon and Soriano have laid the law down to the players - then I expect some to start putting a shift in. Some don't give a shit, they're off. Others have got it all to play for.
I'm excited by the future -
kalouk said:Mister Appointment said:Universidad de Chile said:+ 2.
I agree about Viera - but a wider point.
The British media literally have no clue what's going on behind the scenes because nobody at City is talking either on the record or off. They can continue to pluck names out of thin air and attach them to the City job, but it won't change the fact that they don't actually know who City favour or in which order.
It's easy to write the list of six managers (Klopp, Pep, Carlo, Sabella, Benitez, Viera) who it's possible could get the job, but picking who out of the six is likely to get the job is an impossible task as I suspect only a handful of people even know and only one or two (Txiki + Khaldoon/Mansour) will decide.
Another point to remember is that there may not even be a City job to discuss. We are assuming Pellegrini will go but I have a feeling he will still be here next season.
cleavers said:Hope you're right, but I wouldn't trust anyone's word in football, mates or not.
Its not negative its just my way of being realistic, and I don't think MP will get the chop, rightly or wrongly, nothing I've seen or heard points that way, apart from lots of Bluemoon posters hoping for it (of which I'm not one, and will back him till the owner decides otherwise).
Plus, as good as Silva and Kun are, Vieira wouldn't be walking in on his first day to train this team:LoveCity said:Our rivals will piss themselves if we appoint Vieira. This fantasy he'd be the new Guardiola is just that IMO. For every 1 Guardiola, there will be 49 who can't reproduce the impact he had. Vieira's U21 team has noticeable flaws and is there anything that sets Vieira above other U21 coaches in the same league (other than being a famous footballer)? At least have Vieira go and get some experience at West Ham, Everton, Sunderland or somewhere. If we did appoint Vieira, it'd feels like we're trying to repeat what Barcelona did to the letter but the circumstances are so much different. This idea of doing everything 'from within' is at least 5 years too early IMO. Right now we should be trying to make our stamp on the world with a top tactician to get us into the latter stages of the Champions League.